Fast Food Discussion: Mexican Pizza at Taco Bell

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The discussion centers around fast food preferences, particularly focusing on Taco Bell's Mexican pizza, which some find overrated compared to other items like crunchy tacos. Participants share nostalgic experiences with various fast food chains, including Arby's and McDonald's, while expressing mixed feelings about their offerings and quality. There is a consensus that fast food is often unhealthy but still appealing for its convenience and taste. Some contributors critique the rising costs of fast food and the decline in service quality, noting that better alternatives exist outside of major chains. Overall, the conversation highlights a blend of fondness and criticism for fast food culture.
  • #211
$10.59 Hamburger
$7.99 Little Hamburger

I thought about getting Five Guys today, until I saw their prices. God forbid one adds cheese to a burger or gets a side of fries (let alone a soda too).

When did it cost $20 for a lunch meal of burger/fries/drink? ...Remember when McDonald's had $2.99 combos?

Food costs are insane. Yes, I'm aware FG is a premium fast food place that's always had higher prices, but it's still shocking.

I need to time my $5 (for 8 pieces) Kroger fried chicken days to buy like three trays of these to store up (freeze). At least Taco Bell's bean burrito and rice and cheese burritos are still cheap.
 
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  • #212
kyphysics said:
...Remember when McDonald's had $2.99 combos?
With respect, you should know your audience.
I remember when McDonald's had 15 cent hamburgers.
 
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  • #213
I worked at a small local fast food chain when I was in high school. I remember when coffee went from a nickel to a dime. The old coots who gathered for coffee at our restaurant went hermatile.
 
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  • #214
Some 'Fast' food in Asia.
 
  • #215
High prices, as like in post #211, know that some taco shops do sell inexpensive tacos. Good flavor too. Just also know you get what you pay for; and that does NOT mean poor quality, but means the tacos may be a little small. Taco is a fast food, useful as a quick meal. Some taco places sell a taco for 3 to 4 dollars.

.... but now for my opinion - about Burrito, to me they are still too expensive, almost everywhere. Best learn to make your own burrito at home. So fast-food if you do not mind the price; or slow food if you want a better price and make them at home.
 
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  • #216
I get myself some store-brand waffles, cheese , and nuke them both for 30 seconds. A nice, tasty , filling snack to go along with more nutritious fare.
 
  • #217
Question for Waffle House patrons:

Is the bill always calculated by the employee by hand? This is weird as hell. They don't punch in the cost into a computer, but do it by hand at my location. I'm catching LOTS of overcharge "errors."
 
  • #218
kyphysics said:
Question for Waffle House patrons:

Is the bill always calculated by the employee by hand? This is weird as hell. They don't punch in the cost into a computer, but do it by hand at my location. I'm catching LOTS of overcharge "errors."

I don't eat at Waffle House myself (none nearby), but I know that Waffle House will operate on just the bare essentials in order to stay open at nearly all costs. As such, they probably avoid reliance on automated cash registers and things that might break down. For example, if the power goes out, or a store's computer system is damaged, they still need to be operating at full speed.

It's enough that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) based their disaster recovery index on Waffle House. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_House_Index
 
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  • #219
collinsmark said:
I don't eat at Waffle House myself (none nearby), but I know that Waffle House will operate on just the bare essentials in order to stay open at nearly all costs. As such, they probably avoid reliance on automated cash registers and things that might break down. For example, if the power goes out, or a store's computer system is damaged, they still need to be operating at full speed.

It's enough that the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) based their disaster recovery index on Waffle House. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_House_Index
The FEMA link is impressive, but I do find the WH method cumbersome too. The employee calculating my order's total took FOREVER! On top of that, he seemed to add an unauthorized tip for himself (unless it was a math error). It happened a few times (the overcharge) and has spurred me to demand a calculation in front of me with all the numbers written out next time (which is time consuming).

I will say their food prep is quite fast when there aren't a lot of customers. I've been going 5:30 AM a lot.

Their "double" your hash browns for $.50 cents is a great deal.
 
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  • #221
kyphysics said:
$10.59 Hamburger
$7.99 Little Hamburger

I thought about getting Five Guys today, until I saw their prices. God forbid one adds cheese to a burger or gets a side of fries (let alone a soda too).

When did it cost $20 for a lunch meal of burger/fries/drink? ...Remember when McDonald's had $2.99 combos?

Food costs are insane. Yes, I'm aware FG is a premium fast food place that's always had higher prices, but it's still shocking.

I need to time my $5 (for 8 pieces) Kroger fried chicken days to buy like three trays of these to store up (freeze). At least Taco Bell's bean burrito and rice and cheese burritos are still cheap.
Things like that is why some of us have been putting in the effort to cook foods on our own. One can but some food items in the less-assembled form, and do what we want with them, according to our own food preparations skills.
 
  • #222
kyphysics said:
$10.59 Hamburger
$7.99 Little Hamburger

I thought about getting Five Guys today, until I saw their prices. God forbid one adds cheese to a burger or gets a side of fries (let alone a soda too).

When did it cost $20 for a lunch meal of burger/fries/drink? ...Remember when McDonald's had $2.99 combos?

Food costs are insane. Yes, I'm aware FG is a premium fast food place that's always had higher prices, but it's still shocking.

I need to time my $5 (for 8 pieces) Kroger fried chicken days to buy like three trays of these to store up (freeze). At least Taco Bell's bean burrito and rice and cheese burritos are still cheap.
Another interesting high-price routine is the very many so very many taco & burrito fast food shops offer various things, including burritos and several kinds of assorted plates and other stuff,... and then some of these places sell TACOS for very low prices, like between 2.5 and 3.00 dollars per taco; while the burritos are sold for between 9 and 12 dollars each. Wild Price Differences!
 
  • #223
symbolipoint said:
Another interesting high-price routine is the very many so very many taco & burrito fast food shops offer various things, including burritos and several kinds of assorted plates and other stuff,... and then some of these places sell TACOS for very low prices, like between 2.5 and 3.00 dollars per taco; while the burritos are sold for between 9 and 12 dollars each. Wild Price Differences!
Taco Bell's ~$1.00 menu is pretty decent. A dollar for a cheesy rice & bean burrito is nice. The taste is okay, but I'll admit that I get sick of them after even one (two is the most I'll eat).

For food that I like, I'm paying about $10 for just the main item (a simple veggie burrito/bowl at Chipotle is $9.13 after tax - I get this 2x a week, so I've memorized the price), which sometimes doesn't even fill me up (depends on the day - sometimes it does). That's the new inflationary norm I guess.

I've actually been preparing some meals at home as you said.

If I HAD to choose an "affordable" meal outside that I liked the taste of, it'd probably be a Chick-Fil-A sandwich for $5.50 or so. Decently filling, tasty, and not super expensive. It can sometimes get me by without having to add fries or anything else. Their chicken is thick and real 100% meat.
 
  • #224
kyphysics said:
Taco Bell's ~$1.00 menu is pretty decent. A dollar for a cheesy rice & bean burrito is nice. The taste is okay, but I'll admit that I get sick of them after even one (two is the most I'll eat).
Try instead looking at and trying tacos and burritos from the not-famous restaurants. Look around and you can find many small not-well-known places with mostly very good burritos and tacos. The items are different and to many people, better than of the well known brands.
 
  • #225
symbolipoint said:
Try instead looking at and trying tacos and burritos from the not-famous restaurants. Look around and you can find many small not-well-known places with mostly very good burritos and tacos. The items are different and to many people, better than of the well known brands.
I know it's fallacious to think all such places are like this, but I went to one and there were HUGE rats around the store. I was freaked out and left without eating there.
 
  • #226
kyphysics said:
I know it's fallacious to think all such places are like this, but I went to one and there were HUGE rats around the store. I was freaked out and left without eating there.
Maybe you were just unlucky one time. You could try or check in with other places.
 
  • #227
Speaking of Waffle House, this was on Saturday Night Live (SNL) last weekend.

 
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collinsmark said:
Speaking of Waffle House, this was on Saturday Night Live (SNL) last weekend.


I must be going AFTER those events. lol My typical time is 5:30AM. Usually, it's just me and one or two other customers. Very quiet.

One thing I've been doing, though, is using my air fryer more often and trying different potato concoctions (fries, wedges, thin strings...). I feel I can replicate or do better than WH hash browns at home. It's pretty easy, as potatoes aren't hard to clean, nor prepare. Not the best for my diabetes, but they do save me some $$$ and taste great!
 
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Last summer I showed you all a retro Dairy Queen in Gastonia NC. Here's another one that I visited this past weekend in Salisbury NC. It looks like it's been kept up better than the one in Gastonia.

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It doesn't have much seating, though. Just the bench that you see, and a matching one on the other side.
 
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The thing that gets me about "fast food" is that I can't seem to find a place where it is actually fast.

A franchise in Canada is called Tim Hortons. Named after a hockey player who invested his salary from The Game. You line up to the cash register to order everything. If you order certain types of stuff, the person on the register gets it for you. Other stuff, for example if it needs to be prepped on the grill, gets passed to somebody else. So you get to wait for both parts of everybody's order. This person wants a donut and a coffee, you have to wait for the person on the register to get the donut out of the bin.

Then the next person requires 12 minutes to order a coffee. The instructions needed to be stated, repeated, acknowledged, corrected, re-repeated, lost, found, and re-re-repeated. And the result comes out in a paper cup like my "medium coffee black."

So the 8 people in front of me required a total of 27 minutes to put in their orders. I timed it. "Fast" food.

I frequently travel to my brother's place, a 3 hour drive away. Some sort of food half-way is pretty much required. So the road-side stop has 9 touch-screen terminals to put in your order. And 7 of them are not working. But the burger-breath in the place is not taking any orders at their counter because you are supposed to use the machine. So I use the machine, line up for 20 minutes to get to the machine. And I'm standing there without my receipt because the machine is out of receipt tape.

And the person behind the counter has her back to the customers, waiting for the product in the order she is working on. She will *not* work on anything else before that order is finished. She won't turn to the counter and take orders from the thirty people waiting. She won't start any other order whether the product is there or not.

"Fast" food.
 
  • #232
jtbell said:
Last summer I showed you all a retro Dairy Queen in Gastonia NC. Here's another one that I visited this past weekend in Salisbury NC. It looks like it's been kept up better than the one in Gastoni

Retro DQ is great. I recall fondly from my childhood when the family went to a DQ in a nearby town. Real milkshake from one of those mixing machines, made with real milk and ice cream and fruit. Banana split with an actual banana. Tin-roof sundae with real crushed peanuts on it, along with hot caramel.

What I really miss are the retro A&W places. The serve staff used to roller skate out to bring your order on a tray that hooked onto your car window. Frosted glasses, real glass not waxed cardboard, for the rootbeer. Hamburgers that they didn't start cooking until you actually ordered them. Fries made from real potatoes. Yum!
 
  • #233
Grelbr42 said:
The thing that gets me about "fast food" is that I can't seem to find a place where it is actually fast.
I'm no expert on this, but it seems like some fast food chains around here (like McDonald's) let you order and pay online, so when you get to the location you walk to the head of the line, get your order and walk out. Have you looked into that option?

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  • #234
berkeman said:
I'm no expert on this, but it seems like some fast food chains around here (like McDonald's) let you order and pay online, so when you get to the location you walk to the head of the line, get your order and walk out. Have you looked into that option?

Tried that.

My food sits in a bag on the back of the counter for twenty minutes. After sitting in the bin for twenty minutes. And I have to wait for the clerk to get it for me anyway. Then I have to wait for them to get my drink, which wasn't with the rest of the order. So at best I avoid the line to order and receive cold food.
 
  • #235
Grelbr42 said:
Tried that.

My food sits in a bag on the back of the counter for twenty minutes. After sitting in the bin for twenty minutes. And I have to wait for the clerk to get it for me anyway. Then I have to wait for them to get my drink, which wasn't with the rest of the order. So at best I avoid the line to order and receive cold food.
At McDonald's, or other places? At least at the one location that I went to a few times (to get a soda before heading to the park to shoot hoops), during the time I would stand waiting for my drink order to be filled, at least 5 people would walk right up and get their order bag. I never saw separate drinks, so I'd assume they were included in the bag.
 
  • #236
My wife wanted Taco Bell for lunch today. They have the self-order-kiosks now too. I really don't like them but I guess now that nobody wants to work in these places that's what it takes to stay open. Our order came fast and without any mistakes. Plus, we each got a free taco since it is Tuesday. As we ate, we listened to the staff as they served a dozen or more customers in the drive-thru. What I want to know is how do people eat tacos while driving? I would have to wear a raincoat.
 
  • #237
gmax137 said:
They have the self-order-kiosks now
This is what happens when you raise the minimum wage. Minimum wage says "If your work isn't worth $15/hour (or whatever) it's worth $0" This is to be compared with the cost of doing without - e.g. kiosks.
 
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  • #238
gmax137 said:
My wife wanted Taco Bell for lunch today. They have the self-order-kiosks now too. I really don't like them but I guess now that nobody wants to work in these places that's what it takes to stay open. Our order came fast and without any mistakes. Plus, we each got a free taco since it is Tuesday. As we ate, we listened to the staff as they served a dozen or more customers in the drive-thru. What I want to know is how do people eat tacos while driving? I would have to wear a raincoat.
(1) Does the kiosk allow customer to ask for and be given a "Live Agent"?

(2) Driver does not have to eat in the car while driving. Passengers, maybe. Drive to a park or to home or workplace; and eat there.
 
  • #239
symbolipoint said:
(1) Does the kiosk allow customer to ask for and be given a "Live Agent"?
I did not notice a "speak to human" button on the kiosk, but the young woman working the drive thru told us to ask her if we needed any help.

(2) Driver does not have to eat in the car while driving. Passengers, maybe. Drive to a park or to home or workplace; and eat there.
Yes, but I don't know why anyone would prefer cold tacos at the park, to hot fresh ones. Obviously there may be circumstances...
 
  • #240
symbolipoint said:
(1) Does the kiosk allow customer to ask for and be given a "Live Agent"?
Whether or not you can get a human depends on the specific location and the brand of fast food. Lots of places I have seen, when they get the kiosk they make it very difficult to get a human's attention. Other places, there's a human hanging out at the kiosks because the kiosks are "not ready for prime time."
 

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