Faster the object from a certain height?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the height from which a ball is dropped and its resulting velocity upon impact, considering factors such as gravitational acceleration and terminal velocity. Participants explore theoretical and practical implications of these concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that a ball dropped from a height of 100m will have a greater velocity upon impact compared to one dropped from 1m, due to the longer distance of acceleration under gravity.
  • One participant notes that while both balls accelerate at 9.81m/s², the ball from 100m will continue to accelerate until it reaches terminal velocity, while the ball from 1m may not reach that speed.
  • Another participant introduces the idea that for lightweight objects, such as a feather, the difference in final speed may be negligible when dropped from different heights.
  • Mathematical formulas for constant acceleration are provided, indicating that velocity is proportional to the square root of the distance traveled.
  • There is a discussion about the role of drag force, which increases with velocity, and how it eventually balances the gravitational force, leading to terminal velocity where acceleration ceases.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the ball dropped from 1m can reach terminal velocity and the implications of drag force on the final velocity of objects dropped from varying heights. No consensus is reached on these points.

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Limitations include assumptions about the conditions under which the balls are dropped, such as air resistance and the nature of the objects (e.g., feather vs. solid ball). The discussion does not resolve the complexities of drag force and terminal velocity in different scenarios.

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I'm just wondering for instance, if a ball was dropped from a height of 100m, would it have a larger velocity/ go faster than a ball that was dropped from a height of 1m?
Also acceleration would stay the same because of gravity. Yes or No?

Thanks :) !
 
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the ball from 100m would be accelerating at 9.81m/s/s so it will carry on accelerating at this speed until terminal velocity(when drag equals accelerating force) and then hit the ground.
The ball dropped from 1m would accelerate at 9.81m/s/s for only 1 meter.
therefore the ball dropped from 100m will be traveling a lot faster. Think of jumping from a garage roof and then skydiving the sky diver will reach a much higher velocity than if he jumped from a garage roof.
I would do the math for you but I am in a rush.
hope that clears things up.
 
depends on whether or not that ball reaches terminal velocity by 1m.

for example, if you dropped a feather from 1 m and from 100m, you probably won't sense a difference in final speed right before hitting the ground.
 
2 formulas normally used to solve a body in a constant acceleration.
[itex]S=S_o+ut+\frac {1}{2}at^2[/itex]
[itex]v^2=u^2+2as[/itex]

From 2nd. formula,
Velocity is proportional to the root of distant it traveled.
For 1 sec the velocity changes by 9.8m/s
1st. sec 9.8m/s
2nd. sec. 19.6m/s
 
Yes. Acceleration always stays the same at 9.81m/s.

However, Johnahh brought up an interesting point. Since the drag force is proportional to velocity, there is a certain velocity at which the drag force is equivalent to the force of gravity (mg).

At first, the drag force is not strong enough because the speed is low, but since the force increases as the speed increases, at some speed the net force will be zero.

From Newton's Second Law (Fnet=ma), if a mass has no net force, there will be no acceleration. Thus, the mass will be moving at constant speed.
 

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