Few Vector Addition questions, Not sure if correct

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The discussion revolves around vector addition and dot product calculations involving two men walking from a hole in different directions, as well as the vector difference between two given vectors in three-dimensional space.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the dot product of net displacements and the vector difference between two vectors. There is uncertainty about the correct approach to finding the angle associated with the vector difference, particularly in a three-dimensional context.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the calculations and the interpretation of angles in three dimensions. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct methods to describe the direction of the vector difference, with multiple interpretations being considered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of considering the three-dimensional nature of the problem when calculating angles and directions, and there is mention of ensuring units are included in calculations.

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Homework Statement



1) Two men are near a hole, One man walks 12m east and then 12m North from a hole, the other walks 15m west and then 11m north, Find the dot product of their net displacements from the tree
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2) Vector A = -i +2j - 5k, Vector B = 3i +2j -2k
Find the magnitude and direction of the vector difference A -B

Homework Equations



|A||B|cos(t) = A(x)B(x) + A(y)B(y) = |A||B|

The Attempt at a Solution



1 )I didn't calculate the resultant as I think you don't need it, I used the components given

A = 12i + 12j
B = -15i +11j

|A||B| = (12*-15) + (12*11) = -48.

_____________________

2) A - B = -4i -3k

|A-B| = \sqrt{-4^2 + 0^2 + -3^2} = 5.0

arctan(\frac{0}{-4} = 0

So the magnitude is 5.0 and the angle is 0 degrees? This seems wrong to me..

If anyone can tell me if I did these right or give me a tip in the right direction, it'd be very much appreciated. Thanks in advance
 
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Elysian said:

Homework Statement



1) Two men are near a hole, One man walks 12m east and then 12m North from a hole, the other walks 15m west and then 11m north, Find the dot product of their net displacements from the tree
_______

2) Vector A = -i +2j - 5k, Vector B = 3i +2j -2k
Find the magnitude and direction of the vector difference A -B

Homework Equations



|A||B|cos(t) = A(x)B(x) + A(y)B(y) = |A||B|

The Attempt at a Solution



1 )I didn't calculate the resultant as I think you don't need it, I used the components given

A = 12i + 12j
B = -15i +11j

|A||B| = (12*-15) + (12*11) = -48.
Don't forget the units.
2) A - B = -4i -3k

|A-B| = \sqrt{-4^2 + 0^2 + -3^2} = 5.0

arctan(\frac{0}{-4} = 0

So the magnitude is 5.0 and the angle is 0 degrees? This seems wrong to me..
The formula you used for the angle is for a vector that lies in the xy-plane. You actually have a three-dimensional problem here, so you'll need to think a bit more about how to describe the direction of the vector.
 
Thanks a lot for your reply, For the second one would it actually be arctan z/x? Since there's no y coordinate the vector lies in the xz plane, that would make it arctan z/x?
 
Yes, that'll work. Just make sure you describe exactly what angle you're calculating.
 
Ok, I've got 36.9 degrees south of west, I think that seems right seeing as this vector is in the 3rd quadrant of the xz axis, from the +x it'd be 216.9 degrees. Have I done anything wrong?
 
Sounds good.
 
Alright vela, Thanks a ton for your help, I really appreciate it.
 

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