Field due to ring charge at x-y axis.

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The problem involves determining the location on the positive z-axis where the electric field due to a uniformly charged ring in the xy-plane is strongest. The charge distribution and its geometric configuration are central to the discussion.

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  • Participants discuss the derivation of the electric field and question the correctness of the final expression for the position of maximum electric field. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the variables involved, particularly the dimensions of the derived expressions.

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The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing feedback on the derivation while others are exploring alternative values for the position of maximum electric field. There is no explicit consensus yet, but guidance has been offered regarding the dimensional correctness of the expressions.

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Homework Statement



A charge ##Q## is distributed unifromly around a thin ring of radius ##b## which lies in ##xy## plane with its centre at the origin. Locate the point on the positive ##z## axis where the electric field is strongest ?

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##\displaystyle d\vec E = {dQ \over b^2 + r^2 }\cos \alpha##. ##r## is the distance between the point, ##\alpha## is the angle between ##z## axis and the displacement vector , and the ring along ##z## axis.

##\displaystyle d\vec E = {\lambda dl \over b^2 + r^2 } \cos \alpha = d\vec E = {\lambda bd\theta \over b^2 + r^2 } \cos \alpha##.

Using ##\displaystyle \cos \alpha = {r \over \sqrt{b^2 + r^2}}##.

##\displaystyle E = {br\lambda \over (b^2 + r^2)^{3/2} } \int^{2\pi}_{0} d\theta = {2\pi br\lambda \over (b^2 + r^2)^{3/2} }##

Since ##\displaystyle \lambda = {Q\over 2\pi b}##,

I get,

##\displaystyle E = {Qr \over (b^2 + r^2)^{3/2}}##

Which has a maximum ##\displaystyle r = {2\over 3\sqrt{3}b^2}##.

Am I correct ?
 
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The derivation of the electric field is correct. Your final answer is not. If b is the radius, your value for r has the wrong dimensions. It must proportional to b not to b-2.
 
kuruman said:
The derivation of the electric field is correct. Your final answer is not. If b is the radius, your value for r has the wrong dimensions. It must proportional to b not to b-2.
Oh that was WA's mistake. I got lazy and let it calculate maxima. Is ## r = \pm b/ \sqrt{2}## correct ?
 
Where is b on the right side of the equation?
 
kuruman said:
Where is b on the right side of the equation?
sorry.

I edited my post. Is the answer ##\pm b/\sqrt{2}## ?
 
I would pick the positive value because the problem specifies "on the positive z axis". Otherwise it's fine.
 
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