Final Equilibrium Temperature of Lead Shot Problem

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The problem involves a .20kg lead shot heated to 90 degrees Celsius being dropped into a calorimeter containing .50kg of water at 20 degrees Celsius. The goal is to determine the final equilibrium temperature of the lead shot and water system, utilizing the specific heat capacities of lead and water.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the use of the heat transfer equation, questioning how to express temperature changes in terms of the final temperature. There is confusion regarding the setup of equations for final temperatures and the interpretation of delta T for both substances.

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Some participants have provided guidance on assuming the final temperature of both lead and water is the same, suggesting to express temperature changes in terms of this final temperature. Others express confusion about setting up the equations correctly and the lack of examples in their textbooks.

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Participants note the challenge of deriving the final temperature without explicit examples, and there is mention of needing to consider absolute temperatures in Kelvin for energy calculations.

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A .20kg lead shot is heated to 90 degrees C and dropped into an ideal calorimeter containing .50kg of water initially at 20 degrees C. What is the final equilibrium temperance of the lead shot? Specific heat capacity of lead is 128 J/(kg*C), and water is 4186 J/(kg*C).


Homework Equations



Am I using the right formula, (c*m*delta T)_lead = (c*m*delta T)_water

What is the delta T of water in this equation?

The Attempt at a Solution



delta T_lead = (c*m*delta T)_water / (c*m)_lead
= [(4186)(.50)(?)] / [(128)(.20)]
= ?
 
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You have to assume that the final temperature of the lead and water are the same. Write your equations in terms of this rather than delta T.
Once you have found this you can obviously work out each dT.
 
The equation doesn't give me the final temp of the water, so how do you set up the equations for the final temps? I'm confuse because my textbook only gives me one sample problem in it and that one gives you the final temp of the water, so the equation is simple.

Sorry if I am not seeing it...
 
Confused_07 said:
Am I using the right formula, (c*m*delta T)_lead = (c*m*delta T)_water
That's correct. (Assuming you get the signs right.)

What is the delta T of water in this equation?
Call the final temperature T_f. Express those "delta T"s in terms of the given initial temperatures and T_f. Then solve for T_f.
 
Calculate the total energy at the start.
=mass lead * c lead * T lead + mass water * c water * T water
( use the absolute temperature in kelvin ie 273 + C)

At the end you have the same energy and the lead / water temperature are the same.
= mass lead * c lead * T + mass water * c water * T

Simply solve for T ( remember this is in kelvin )
 

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