Final Temperature of Drink After Adding Ice Cubes

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the final temperature of a drink after adding ice cubes to it. The context includes a glass tumbler with water at a specific temperature and ice cubes at a lower temperature, requiring an understanding of heat transfer and energy conservation principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the energy exchanges involved in heating the ice, melting it, and then heating the resulting water. There are attempts to set up equations based on conservation of energy and specific heat calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the steps needed to analyze the problem, emphasizing the need to consider the energy gained by the ice and the energy lost by the water. There is ongoing confusion about the correct setup of the equations, but a participant indicates they have resolved their confusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that thermal conduction with the environment can be neglected, focusing solely on the interactions between the ice and the water in the tumbler.

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Homework Statement


A 25 g glass tumbler contains 350 mL of water at 24°C. If four 20 g ice cubes each at a temperature of -3°C are dropped into the tumbler, what is the final temperature of the drink? Neglect thermal conduction between the tumbler and the room.

Homework Equations


Q = mcT
Q = mLf (energy required to melt a substance of mass m)

The Attempt at a Solution


Here are all the known variables:
massw = .35kg
c (specific heat for water) = 4186 J/kg * C
Twater,initial = 24 C
massice = 4*20g = .08kg
Lf = 3.33*105 J/kg
Tice,initial = -3 C
Tf = ?

First I can use Q = mcT to see if all the ice will get melted by the water
Q = (.35kg)*(4186 J/kgC)*(24C) = 35162.4 J
m = Q/Lf = (35162.4 J) / (3.33*105 J/kg) = .105592
Since the total mass of the ice is .08, then all the ice will get melted.

Now we can apply conservation of energy to find the final temperature.
massw*c*(Twater,initial - Tf) = massice*Lf + massice*c*(Tf-Tice,initial)

Plugging in all my variables and solving I get 4.18 C which is incorrect.
My math could be wrong but I don't believe it is.
Could anyone provide any insight on what I am doing wrong?
 
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The initial ice goes to the final water in three steps: Increase the temperature of the ice; melt the ice; increase the temperature of the resulting water.
 
I'm still confused. Here are the three steps you mentioned.

(1) Increase the temperature of the ice: Q = mice*cice*(Tf-Tice,initial)
(2) Melt the ice: Q = mice*Lfusion,water
(3) Increase temperature of water: Q = mwater,initial*cwater*(Twater,initial*Tf)

And then the equation would be: (1) + (2) = (3)

Is this the correct setup?
 
kachilous said:
I'm still confused. Here are the three steps you mentioned.

(1) Increase the temperature of the ice: Q = mice*cice*(Tf-Tice,initial)
(2) Melt the ice: Q = mice*Lfusion,water
(3) Increase temperature of water: Q = mwater,initial*cwater*(Twater,initial*Tf)

And then the equation would be: (1) + (2) = (3)

Is this the correct setup?
Not exactly. The ice is warmed up to the final temperature and the 350 ml of water is cooled down to the final temperature. The energy added to the ice equals the energy lost by the water.

Just thinking about the warming of the ice, here are the three steps:
(1) Raise the temperature of the ice from its initial temperature to the melting point.
(2) Melt the ice.
(3) Raise the temperature of the melted ice (water, of course) from the melting point to the final temperature.

Give it another shot.
 
I figured it out. Thank you!
 

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