Final velocity of the barbell dropped after a dead lift

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The discussion revolves around calculating the final velocity of a barbell dropped after a deadlift, focusing on the height difference during the drop and the effects of gravity on the motion. The subject area includes kinematics and gravitational acceleration.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of final velocity based on the height difference and question the use of units, particularly the conversion from centimeters to meters. Some express uncertainty about the resulting velocity and its realism given the height of the fall.

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There is ongoing exploration of the calculations involved, with some participants identifying potential errors in unit conversion. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of gravitational acceleration and the formula for time of fall, but no consensus has been reached on the final velocity.

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Some participants note the importance of unit conversion, indicating that this may have led to errors in their calculations. The discussion reflects a learning process where participants are encouraged to revisit their assumptions and methods.

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Homework Statement
-If the barbell was dropped from its final height, with what speed (in m/s) did it impact the ground?
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I used the kinematic equation for free fall Vf^2=Vi^2-2g🔺y. For deltaY I subtracted 88-22.5. I am not sure why I can't get this one right. I might need to use the formula V=gt but I don't know how to get t. Help, please. Thank you
Eddie Hall is the current world record holder in the deadlift, a powerlifting maneuver in which a weighted barbell is lifted from the ground to waist height, then dropped. The figure below shows a side view of the initial and final positions of the deadlift.
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A side view of the initial position of a man performing a deadlift. The man is squatting and leaning forward. A point labeled O is at the lowest point of the circular cross-section of the barbell, which is on the ground, and this point is also located at the bottom of the man's shoe at a distance closer to the front of the shoe than the back of the shoe. A vertical and horizontal line run through the center of the cross section of the barbell and extend through the image. The distance between the ground and the center of the cross-section of the barbell is hi = 22.5 cm. A vector labeled Flift points along the person's back at an angle of 𝜃 = 55.0° from the vertical.

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A side view of the final position of a man performing a deadlift. The man is standing straight up. A point labeled O is one the ground at about the midpoint of the man's shoe. A vertical and horizontal line run through the center of the cross section of the barbell and extend through the image. The distance between the ground and the center of the cross-section of the barbell is hf = 88.0 cm.
On March 5, 2016, Hall lifted a combined mass of 465 kg (1,026 lb) from the initial barbell height of 22.5 cm to a height of 88.0 cm above the ground (see figure (b)). As shown in figure (a), the initial lift force for this maneuver is generated by the gluteus maximus parallel to the back of the lifter, at an angle of 55.0° to the vertical.
 
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What did you get for the final velocity after falling that 88-22.5cm? What did you use for "g", and what units? How did you convert from cm to meters?
 
I did not convert cm to m. I'm sorry, I totally missed that part. For f. velocity, I got 11.33m/s
 
Rudina said:
I did not convert cm to m. I'm sorry, I totally missed that part. For f. velocity, I got 11.33m/s
That's about 25 miles per hour. Do you think an object would move that fast when released from rest and falls by about two feet?

To answer your other question, you get ##t## from ##\Delta y=\frac{1}{2}gt^2## where ##\Delta y =(0.880-0.225)~##m and##g=9.80~\text{m/s}^2.##
 
kuruman said:
That's about 25 miles per hour.
Or 40, even?
Rudina said:
I got 11.33m/s
Looks like a factor of 10 error in converting cm to m.
 
haruspex said:
Or 40, even?
If you mean 40 kilometers per hour, yes.
 
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Rudina said:
Eddie Hall is the current world record holder in the deadlift
** Ahem **
 
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I was able to put all the pieces of the puzzle together. Thank you everyone for your help. As I navigate this course, I am learning that I should take breaks and return to the problem again and not spend 5 hrs working on problems without a break. Sometimes, I make some mistakes that don't make sense because there are very small and easy things, such as just converting cm to m, which is something I have done my whole life. Thank you again.
 
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