Find a Comprehensive Science Book Mentions Plasma for Pre-University Students

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The discussion revolves around the search for a comprehensive science book suitable for pre-university students that includes mentions of plasma. Participants explore the availability of such resources and the general treatment of plasma in educational materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses surprise that plasma is not covered in their physics or chemistry textbooks, highlighting a gap in fundamental knowledge.
  • Another participant notes that plasma physics is typically not addressed at the pre-university level and is often reserved for students with a strong mathematical background in university.
  • There is a suggestion that pre-university physics should at least mention familiar examples of plasmas, such as neon lights and auroras, alongside other phases of matter.
  • A specific book, Volume 10 of the Landau & Lifschitz series, is mentioned as containing significant content on plasmas, though it may be too advanced for the original poster.
  • Participants discuss the rarity of plasma being included in general science textbooks, with some noting that it might be found in astrophysics texts or mentioned in passing in low-level chemistry books.
  • One participant shares their experience of discussing plasmas in a presentation on nuclear fusion and suggests using MIT OpenCourseWare as a resource for introductory materials on the topic.
  • There is a description of plasma as a fully ionized gas with unique properties, but it is noted that these properties are not fully understood, complicating the creation of a general introductory textbook on plasma physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that plasma is not commonly covered in pre-university science education and that resources mentioning plasma at this level are limited. Multiple views exist regarding the necessity and depth of plasma coverage in educational materials.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in pre-university curricula regarding advanced topics like plasma and the potential need for more comprehensive treatment of various phases of matter. There is also an acknowledgment of the evolving nature of plasma physics and its educational challenges.

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I was good in physics and chemistry at school and I have relatively good pre-university knowledge

but I never read about plasma

which book is complete enough starting from the beginning and mentioning plasma?

none of my physics or chemistry books mentioned plasma and it's really astonishing to miss out that fundamental knowledge!

I am not looking for a plasma-specific book, but rather a general science book that would mention few things about it! I excelled in last year school exams in physics and chemistry, yet I never heard of plasma!
 
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It is not unlikely that few textbooks at a pre-university level address plasma. Many good undergraduate programs do not address plasma physics either. Plasma physics is generally studied by students with a strong mathematical background and a good knowledge of transport theory and electrodynamics at the university level. Pre-university of physics should mention familiar examples of plasmas, e.g. neon lights, aurora. The pre-university physics should probably mention other phases pf matter such as Bose Einstein condensate, dark matter?, superfluids etc to be complete, but an explanation of properties is a digression from what most pre-university student need. Mostly pre-universities live in a world with three phases; solid liquid, and gases. Further study of less familiar phases comes later
 
so which general textbook mentions plasma? not plasma-specific book
 
Volume 10: Physical Kinetics of the Landau & Lifschitz series spends ~40% of it on plasmas. I suspect this is significantly above your level, however browsing the contents pages may give you some ideas of starting points for googling. mpresic is right however, it's not really a routine topic. It isn't even mentioned in Young & Freedman for example (although the newest edition may have some mention). You may find some discussion of it in astrophysics texts, as it's a very common form of matter in space (e.g. in stars). It's sometimes mentioned in passing in low-level/general chemistry textbooks I think as well.

In my first year of engineering we had to do a general presentation (on anything, not necessarily technical) which I did on nuclear fusion and as a result had to discuss plasmas. I found the MIT OpenCourseWare very useful, browse some of the lecture slides from the courses on nuclear fusion and/or plasmas. The first few slides of the various courses will probably give you some general idea. The basic concept of plasmas isn't hard to grasp like, for example, a lot of quantum phenomena.

As I understand it (as a non specialist) a plasma is essentially just a gas which has been fully ionized. The ionization gives it some unique properties, particularly with respect to electromagnetic effects. However these properties haven't been fully understood so there isn't going to be a general book called "Plasma Physics 101" in the same way you won't find a text like this on other contemporary topics like graphene and nanoscience topics or modern string theory. It's just too recent and the field is moving too quickly for it to be realistically useful or economically viable to publish a textbook, particular one for such a (relative to the rest of the field) low level audience. You haven't encountered it because you don't really need to know anything beyond what's on wikipedia.
 

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