Find a curve such that time travel is minimum

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The problem involves finding a curve, specifically a function y = f(x), that minimizes the time taken for a ball to travel between two points A and B under the influence of gravity. This falls within the subject area of calculus and physics, particularly in the context of motion and optimization.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's laws and the relationship between gravitational force and motion along the curve. There are attempts to derive relationships between variables, and some participants express uncertainty about the correct approach to relate y and x.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the concept of the brachistochrone and the roles of kinetic and potential energy, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or a clear resolution.

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Participants are encouraged to show their work and reasoning, indicating a focus on understanding the problem rather than simply arriving at a solution. There may be constraints related to the assumptions made about the forces acting on the ball.

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Find the curve y = f(x) so that the ball travels from A to B in minimum time?

Thanks!
 
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What have you worked out thus far? You have to show some effort.
 
I tried at some point on the curve, the gravity force goes down, then use 2nd Newton law. Thus, P = ma = my''. But, P = mg. It does not seem right and I can't find the relation y and x.
 
Any hint? Thanks!
 
this is the brachistochrone, so what is you kinetic and potential energy?

solve in terms of v then separate for ds/dt.

ds = sqrt(dx^2 + dy^2)
 

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