Find and verify parametric equations for an ellipse

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The discussion revolves around finding and verifying parametric equations for an ellipse, specifically focusing on the equations x = a cos(t) and y = b sin(t). Participants are exploring the relationship between these parametric forms and the standard rectangular equation of an ellipse.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the process of verifying the parametric equations by substituting them into the rectangular form of the ellipse equation. There is also confusion regarding whether the task involves converting to polar coordinates or simply verifying the given parametric equations.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify the original problem and the steps needed for verification. Some participants express uncertainty about the requirements of the task, while others suggest straightforward methods for verification without reaching a consensus on the approach.

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There is mention of potential confusion regarding the transition between rectangular and polar forms, as well as the need for clarity on the problem's requirements. Participants are navigating through varying interpretations of the task at hand.

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Homework Statement


Find and verify parametric equations for an ellipse.


Homework Equations


x=acost
y=bsint

The Attempt at a Solution



lets say the equation is x=3cost, y=3sint, domain: 0 to 2pi

x2 y2
-- + -- = 1
a2 b2

point does verify when t=0 x=3, y=0 which =1
any help?
 
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Are you asking about the conversion of the equation for the ellipse from rectangular (Cartesian) to polar coordinates? You already have the first step: your parameterization is actually using polar coordinates, where the angle [tex]\theta[/tex] is expressed as a function of time t (in the simplest possible way, [tex]\theta = t[/tex] ).

If you substitute your expressions for x and y into the rectangular form of the equation, some work with trig identities will get you to a polar form.
 
I'm sorry I do not understand. Please simplify the sentence.
There is a question asking to find and verify parametric equations for an ellipse. How would we start and finish such a complex question? Thank you in advance.
 
I think I understand most of what you are saying, however I am not trying to go from rectangular to polar, I just want to verify this in rectangular form.
 
the.flea said:
I think I understand most of what you are saying, however I am not trying to go from rectangular to polar, I just want to verify this in rectangular form.

I took back my last posting because I wasn't sure what you were asking for. If the problem is just asking for verification of the parametrization, you can just substitute the expressions for x and y into the equation for the ellipse. What do you get? If the statement you arrive at is always true, you have verified the parametrization you were given.

What I was wondering is whether they wanted you to use the polar equation

r^2 = x^2 + y^2

and simplify the result into a function r = r(t). But maybe that's more than they're looking for.
 
… just plug'n'play …

the.flea said:
x=acost
y=bsint

x2 y2
-- + -- = 1
a2 b2

Hi, tiny flea! :smile:

If you're supposed to prove that x=acost, y=bsint satisfies x2/a2 + y2/b2 = 1, why don't you just plug those parametric values for x and y into the equation, and confirm that it is correct?

What is worrying you about that? :smile:
 

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