Finding when a parametric equation self-intersects

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The problem involves finding the values of t at which a parametric curve defined by the equations x = 2 - π cos(t) and y = 2t - π sin(t) intersects itself within the interval [-π, π).

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  • Participants discuss the need to find t1 and t2 such that the x and y coordinates are equal for both values. There is mention of graphing the equations to identify relationships between t1 and t2. One participant questions whether t1 + t2 must always equal zero.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the relationships between the parameters and questioning the nature of the functions involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding graphing the equations to narrow down options.

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Participants are working within the constraints of the specified interval for t and are considering properties of even and odd functions in relation to the parametric equations.

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Homework Statement


If ##x=2-\pi cost## and y = ##2t-\pi sint##, then find the two t's at which the curve crosses itself, where t is on the interval ##[-\pi, \pi)##

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I really don't know where to start besides just looking at the graph of the parametric equations. Is there a general method for this?
 
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You need to find ##t_1## and ##t_2## such that
$$x(t_1)=2-\pi\cos t_1 = x(t_2) = 2 - \pi\cos t_2,\quad\textrm{and}\quad y(t_1)=2t-\pi\sin t_1=y(t_2)=2t-\pi\sin t_2$$
Start by graphing ##x## against ##t## and you should see a relationship that has to hold between ##t_1## and ##t_2##, which will radically narrow down the options you need to consider.

Then draw a graph of ##y## against ##t##.
 
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andrewkirk said:
You need to find ##t_1## and ##t_2## such that
$$x(t_1)=2-\pi\cos t_1 = x(t_2) = 2 - \pi\cos t_2,\quad\textrm{and}\quad y(t_1)=2t-\pi\sin t_1=y(t_2)=2t-\pi\sin t_2$$
Start by graphing ##x## against ##t## and you should see a relationship that has to hold between ##t_1## and ##t_2##, which will radically narrow down the options you need to consider.

Then draw a graph of ##y## against ##t##.
Must it always be the case that ##t_1+t_2=0##?
 
Yes, because the function that gives ##x## in terms of ##t## is what's called an even function. A related type of function is an odd function - see further down on the same link. What sort of function is the one that gives ##y## in terms of ##t##?
 

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