Find beats formula using imaginary parts

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around using the imaginary parts of complex exponentials to derive an expression for the sum of two sine functions, specifically aiming to arrive at the beats formula. The problem is situated within the context of wave interference and oscillatory motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of complex exponentials to rewrite the sum of sine functions. The original poster attempts to understand how to extract the imaginary part from the complex representation to derive the beats formula. Some participants question the meaning of "it should come out to be the beats formula" and seek clarification on the steps involved in using the imaginary part effectively.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with some participants providing hints and others expressing uncertainty about how to proceed. A few participants have made attempts to rewrite the expressions using trigonometric identities and complex exponentials, but consensus on a clear path forward has not yet been reached.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of using the imaginary part of the complex exponential and the need for further hints or guidance to clarify the connection to the beats formula. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the application of trigonometric identities in this context.

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Homework Statement


Using the imaginary parts

When using complex representation, it is customary to use the real parts. Instead use the imaginary part of [itex]e^{j\theta}[/itex] to calculate an expression for the sum:
[tex]\sin(\omega t) + \sin((\omega + \Delta \omega)t)[/tex]

Remember, it should come out to be the beats formula.



Homework Equations


[tex] e^{j\theta} = \cos(\theta) + j\sin(\theta)\\<br /> \omega_{beat} = |\omega_{1}-\omega_{2}|\\<br /> cos(\theta) = Re[e^{j\theta}]\\<br /> sin(\theta) = Im[e^{j\theta}][/tex]




The Attempt at a Solution


I'm having trouble understanding what the question is asking for. I tried rewriting the above equation using the complex exponential with the hope to take the imaginary part later but that hasn't seemed to bring me closer to the "beat formula". I'm also not sure what it means "it should come out to be the beats formula"
[tex] \sin(\omega t) + \sin((\omega+\Delta \omega)t)\\<br /> \sin(\omega_{1}) + \sin(\omega_{2}t)\\<br /> e^{j\omega_{1}t} + e^{j\omega_{2}t}\\[/tex]

Using some trig I get an expression for the sum that does have look like it will exhibit beating behavior when the frequencies are close, but this wasn't using the complex exponential function.

[tex] \sin(\alpha) + \sin(\beta) = 2 \sin\left(\frac{\alpha+\beta}{2}\right)\cos\left(\frac{\alpha-\beta}{2}\right)\\<br /> \sin(\omega_{1}t)+\sin(\omega_{2}t)= 2\sin\left(\frac{\omega_{1}+\omega{2}}{2}t\right)\cos\left(\frac{\omega_{1}-\omega_{2}}{2}t\right)[/tex]

The biggest question I'd like to ask is: How do you use the imaginary part of [itex]e^{j\theta}[/itex] to calculate an expression for the sum?
 
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Consider ## e^{ia} e^{ib} ##.
 
[tex] e^{j\alpha}e^{j\beta} = e^{j(\alpha+\beta)}[/tex]

but I don't see how this is helps me to calculate an expression. With trig I use a trig identity and then I calculate an expression. With the imaginary part of [itex]e^{j\theta}[/itex] I use __________ or do _________ and calculate an expression. But right now I don't see what goes in those blanks.
 
$$ e^{ia} e^{ib} = (\cos a + i \sin b) \times ... $$
 
Using Euler's equation I was able to go about it a way. I'm not sure if this is a reasonable answer, but it does seem to meet the requirements of using the imaginary part of [itex]e^{j\theta}[/itex] and calculating an expression.

[tex] \sin(\omega_{1}t)+\sin(\omega_{2}t) = e^{j\omega_{1}t}+e^{j\omega_{2}t}\\<br /> = \cos(\omega_{1}t)+cos(\omega_{2}t) + j(\sin(\omega_{1}t)+sin(\omega_{2}t))\\<br /> \\<br /> Im[e^{j\omega_{1}t}+e^{j\omega_{2}t}] = \sin(\omega_{1}t)+sin(\omega_{2}t)\\<br /> = 2\sin\left(\frac{\omega_{1}+\omega_{2}}{2}t\right) \cos\left(\frac{\omega_{1}-\omega_{2}}{2}t\right)[/tex]
 
I do not see how that uses the complex representation to prove the formula. Consider the hint in #4.
 
[tex] e^{ja}e^{jb} = (\cos(a) + j\sin(a))(\cos(b)+j\sin(b))\\<br /> = [\cos(a)\cos(b) - \sin(a)\sin(b)] + j[\cos(a)\sin(b)+\sin(a)\cos(b)][/tex]
Thank you for the hint. Will you provide another hint? Because I don't see how this moves me closer to an expression for
[tex] \sin(a) + \sin(b)[/tex]
 
Another hint is $$ e^{ia} e^{ib} = e^{i(a + b)} $$
 

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