Find Capacitance: Rearranging the Capacitance Equation V=Vo exp(-t/RC)

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The discussion revolves around rearranging the equation for voltage in a capacitor discharge scenario, specifically V=Vo exp(-t/RC), to isolate the capacitance, C. The subject area includes concepts from electrical engineering and calculus, particularly focusing on exponential functions and logarithms.

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  • Participants explore the use of the natural logarithm to manipulate the equation, questioning the correct application of logarithmic identities and the relationship between exponential and logarithmic functions.

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There is an active exploration of the properties of logarithms and their application to the original equation. Some participants are attempting to clarify the steps involved in rearranging the equation, while others express confusion about the correct forms and identities. Guidance has been offered regarding the distinction between natural logarithms and common logarithms.

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Participants are navigating through potential misunderstandings of logarithmic functions and their inverses, indicating a need for clarity on these mathematical concepts as they relate to the problem at hand.

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how would i rearrange this equation to find the capacitance, c?

V=Vo exp(-t/RC)
 
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Do you know what the inverse of the exponential function is?
 
would it go to,

V = Vo ln + (-t/RC)

then to,

V = ln Vo - t x 1/RC
 
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You're right that you use the natural log function, but your form is incorrect. What would happen if you take the natural log of the exponential function, or ln(e^x) = ?
 
ln(e) + x ?

not really sure you've lost me a bit sorry
 
dan greig said:
ln(e) + x ?

not really sure you've lost me a bit sorry
Let's do it first with the more familiar base 10.

log( 10^2 ) = 2 (right?)

log( 10^x ) = ?

ln( e^x ) is analogous to log( 10^x )...
 
log(10^x) = x ?

analogous?? The same as??

but log e = 1

does that mean log e^x = 1^x ?

therefore log e^x = x ?
 
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dan greig said:
log(10^x) = x ?

analogous?? The same as??

but log e = 1

does that mean log e^x = 1^x ?

therefore log e^x = x ?
No, you need to keep your log() and ln() straight. log() is used with base 10 math, and ln() is used with base e math.

log( 10^x ) = x

ln( e^x ) = ?

Try a few numbers on your calculator to help you keep it straight. There's a reason that most calculators overload the log() key with 10^x and overload the ln() key with e^x...
 
dan greig said:
would it go to,

V = Vo ln + (-t/RC)

then to,

V = ln Vo - t x 1/RC
How come you did not take the natural log on the left hand side?
If this is your original equation, then:
V=Vo exp(-t/RC)
[tex]\ln V = \ln V_0 - {t\over RC}[/tex]

Furthur evaluation is simple.
 

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