Find Closest Approach Time in Equation of Path

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The discussion revolves around finding the time of closest approach in the context of a path defined by the equation \(\vec r = \vec r_0 + \vec A t\). The original poster is attempting to derive a formula for this time based on the relationship between the vectors involved.

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  • The original poster attempts to use the concept of perpendicularity between vectors to derive the time of closest approach. Some participants question the clarity of the problem by asking for details about the reference point for the closest approach.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with one providing a clarification about the geometric relationships involved. There is a productive exchange of ideas, with some guidance offered regarding the correct vectors to consider in the context of the closest approach.

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The original poster initially lacked clarity on the reference point for the closest approach, which was later specified as the origin. This context is crucial for understanding the problem setup.

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The equation of a path is of the form: [itex]\vec r = \vec r_0 + \vec A t[/itex]
If 't' represents time, show that the time of closest approach is:
[tex]t = -\frac{\vec r_0 \cdot \vec A}{|\vec A|^2}[/tex]

I am not really sure on how to proceed about this, but I made a crude approach by assuming [itex]\vec r[/itex] and [itex]\vec r_0[/itex] to be perpendicular. I took the dot product with r0 on both sides of given equation.
[tex]-\vec r_0^2 = \vec A \cdot \vec r_0 t[/tex]

I don't think this a right way to solve, please give some suggestions.
 
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Closest approach to what?
 
Oh sorry, I forget to add that. Find the distance of closest approach to the origin i. e. the distance from the origin to the line.
 
It's not [itex]\vec r_0[/itex] that's perpendicular to [itex]\vec r[/itex], it's [itex]\vec A[/itex].
At the point of closest approach, the vector in the direction of the line, that is, [itex]\vec A[/itex], is perpendicular to the position vector, [itex]\vec r_0+ \vec At[/itex] itself. That is [itex]\vec A \cdot (\vec r_0+ \vec At= 0[/itex]. That is, [itex]\vec A \cdot \vec r_0+ \vec A \cdot \vec A t= 0[/itex]. Can you solve that for t?
 
Wow, thanks! That makes sense. :smile:
[tex]-\vec A \cdot \vec r_0 = |\vec A|^2t[/tex]

[tex]t = -\frac{\vec r_0 \cdot \vec A}{|\vec A|^2}[/tex]
 

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