Find complex number z from equation

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The discussion revolves around finding a complex number \( z \) from the equation \( \sin z + \cos z = 4 \). Participants are exploring the transformation of the equation into a polynomial form using exponential functions.

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  • Participants attempt to rewrite the equation using exponential forms and substitute variables. There are discussions about the signs in the derived polynomial and the complexity of the roots. Some participants express uncertainty about their results and seek clarification on specific steps.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their derived equations and questioning each other's calculations. There is a focus on simplifying the results and addressing the complexity of the roots, with suggestions for handling complex denominators.

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Homework Statement


Find complex number z from equation
Sinz+cosz=4

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I rewrite sinz+cosz=4 in form:
\frac{(exp[i*z]-exp[-i*z])}{2i}+\frac{(exp[i*z]+exp[-i*z])}{2}=4
then subsitute t=exp[i*z]

So I gain t2(1+i)+8ti-1+i=0,I think i can rewrite it in form t2a+tb-c=0
Next step could be to use Quadratic formula,but the roots are complicated, maybe I have mistaken ?so
 
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prehisto said:
\frac{(exp[i*z]-exp[-i*z])}{2i}+\frac{(exp[i*z]+exp[-i*z])}{2}=4
then subsitute t=exp[i*z]

So I gain t2(1+i)+8ti-1+i=0

I get something a little different. Check your signs. If you still get the same answer, please post your working.

Next step could be to use Quadratic formula,but the roots are complicated
Do you mean complex? Why would that be wrong? Post whatever you get.
 
haruspex said:
I get something a little different. Check your signs. If you still get the same answer, please post your working.


Do you mean complex? Why would that be wrong? Post whatever you get.


Yes,i got something different now.
t2(1+i)-8ti+(1-i)=0

so
t1,2=-8i+(-)\sqrt{(8i)^2-4(1+i)(1-i)}/(2(1+i))

t1,2=-8i+(-)\sqrt{-64-8}/(2(1+i))

I ment complicated roots .
I cat simplify them further.
 
prehisto said:
Yes,i got something different now.
t2(1+i)-8ti+(1-i)=0
You've changed two signs. If you'd only changed the first one we'd now agree. Please check again.
so
t1,2=-8i+(-)\sqrt{(8i)^2-4(1+i)(1-i)}/(2(1+i))

t1,2=-8i+(-)\sqrt{-64-8}/(2(1+i))

I can't simplify them further.
Well, you can simplify -64-8, and get rid of the complex denominator. I see no difficulty in reducing it to the usual a+ib form. But actually you will want it in re form because you still have to find z.
 
so finally i have t^2(1+i)-8ti+i-1=0

Unfortunely i do not see how to reduce it. How do you recommend to get rid of complex denominator.
 
prehisto said:
so finally i have t^2(1+i)-8ti+i-1=0

Unfortunely i do not see how to reduce it. How do you recommend to get rid of complex denominator.
That's a standard procedure: multiply top and bottom by its conjugate.
 
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