Find Distance of Electric Charge 3 from q1: 13.9 cm

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The problem involves determining the position of charge q2 along the line connecting charges q1 and q3, where q2 experiences a net electrostatic force of zero. The context is electrostatics, specifically dealing with forces between point charges.

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  • The original poster attempts to set up an equation based on the balance of forces acting on charge q2, using the formula for electrostatic force. Some participants discuss alternative methods for simplifying the problem, suggesting that a more straightforward approach could have been taken.

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3. Suppose the charge q2 in Figure 19-30 can be moved left or right along the line connecting the charges q1 and q3, rather than sitting at a distance d from each. Given that q = 15 µC, find the distance from q1 where q2 experiences a net electrostatic force of zero. (The charges q1 and q3 remain separated by a fixed distance of 2d=38 cm.)
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As I stare at this, it seems like there should be an easier way than the way I did it:

[tex] \begin{array}{l}<br /> k\frac{{q_{1} \,q_2 }}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = k\frac{{q_{2} \,q_3 }}{{d_{2,3}^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \rlap{--} k\frac{{q_{1} \,q_2 }}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \rlap{--} k\frac{{q_{2} \,q_3 }}{{d_{2,3}^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \frac{{q \times 2q}}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \frac{{2q \times 3q}}{{d_{2,3}^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \frac{{2q^2 }}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \frac{{6q^2 }}{{d_{2,3}^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \frac{{2\rlap{--} q^{\rlap{--} 2} }}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \frac{{6\rlap{--} q^{\rlap{--} 2} }}{{d_{2,3}^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \frac{2}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \frac{6}{{d_{2,3}^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> d_{2,3} = 0.38 - d_{1,2} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \frac{2}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \frac{6}{{\left( {0.38 - d_{1,2} } \right)^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \frac{2}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \frac{6}{{\left( {0.38 - d_{1,2} } \right)\left( {0.38 - d_{1,2} } \right)}} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> \frac{2}{{d_{1,2}^2 }} = \frac{6}{{0.38^2 - 0.76d_{1,2} + d_{1,2}^2 }} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> 2\left( {0.38^2 - 0.76d_{1,2} + d_{1,2}^2 } \right) = 6d_{1,2}^2 \\ <br /> \end{array}[/tex]

[tex] \[<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> 0.38^2 - 0.76d_{1,2} = 2d_{1,2}^2 \\ <br /> \\ <br /> - 2d_{1,2}^2 - 0.76d_{1,2} - 0.38^2 = 0 \\ <br /> \\ <br /> d_{1,2} = \frac{{ - b \pm \sqrt {b^2 - 4ac} }}{{2a}} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> d_{1,2} = \frac{{ - \left( { - 0.76} \right) \pm \sqrt {\left( { - 0.76} \right)^2 - 4 \times - 2 \times - 0.38^2 } }}{{2 \times - 2}} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> d_{1,2} = - 0.51908965 \\ <br /> d_{1,2} = 0.13908965 \\ <br /> \end{array}[/tex]
With 0.139 m or (13.9 cm) being the correct answer
 
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Ahh, the same old story of knowing too much math.
From [tex]\frac{2}{{d_{1,2}}^2}=\frac{6}{(0.38-{d_{1,2}})^2}[/tex]

you could have simply divided both sides by 2 and taken the square root.
No quadratics involved.
 
Thanks. I've never been accused of knowing too much math :).

Your way was simpler.
 
You're welcome ;)
 

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