Find equilibrium points given 2 differential equation

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The problem involves finding equilibrium points for a system of two differential equations: \(\dot{x} = -pxy + qx\) and \(\dot{y} = rxy - sy\), where \(p\), \(q\), \(r\), and \(s\) are positive constants with \(p \neq r\). The original poster is tasked with expressing the equilibrium points in terms of these constants.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster identifies one equilibrium point at (0,0) but expresses difficulty in finding additional points. They factor the equations and seek hints for further progress. Other participants discuss the implications of the factored equations and explore the relationships between \(x\) and \(y\) based on the conditions set by the equations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, sharing insights about the relationships between the variables and constants. Some guidance has been provided regarding the implications of the factored equations, and there is exploration of how to derive additional equilibrium points from the established conditions.

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There is a noted confusion regarding the treatment of constants and variables in the equations, which may affect participants' understanding of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement



[itex]\dot{x}[/itex] = -pxy + qx, [itex]\dot{y}[/itex] = rxy - sy

where p,q,r and s are positive constants (p does not equal r)

Question is : Determine all the equilibrium points for the system of differential equations given above, expressing your answers in terms of p,q,r and s


The Attempt at a Solution



I do know one point is (0,0) however am stuck in finding out the others. I factorise them to get

x(-py + q) = 0
y(xr - s) = 0

Any hints will be much appreciated
 
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fireychariot said:

Homework Statement



[itex]\dot{x}[/itex] = -pxy + qx, [itex]\dot{y}[/itex] = rxy - sy

where p,q,r and s are positive constants (p does not equal r)

Question is : Determine all the equilibrium points for the system of differential equations given above, expressing your answers in terms of p,q,r and s


The Attempt at a Solution



I do know one point is (0,0) however am stuck in finding out the others. I factorise them to get

x(-py + q) = 0
y(xr - s) = 0
Okay, and then what? If you are taking a differential equations course, we should be able to assume that you can do basic algebra. You should know "if ab= 0 then either a= 0 or b= 0."

Any hints will be much appreciated
 
-py+q=0 so do I say y = p/q how do I find the x coordinate from that? Is that when x =0 or do I substitute it into my second equation?
 
fireychariot said:
-py+q=0 so do I say y = p/q how do I find the x coordinate from that? Is that when x =0 or do I substitute it into my second equation?

I mean y = q/p sorry. What's confusing is the fact that it is variables as the constants instead of numbers so any more hints would be grateful.
 
?? Constants are numbers.

Your two equations are
x(-py + q) = 0
y(xr - s) = 0

clearly, (0, 0) is a root. In fact if y= 0, -py+q is not 0 (unless q happens to be 0 which I am assuming is not true) so we must have x= 0 also.

If y is NOT 0 then we must have xr- s= 0 so that x= s/r. Putting that into the first equation gives s/r(-py+ q)= 0 so that y= q/p. (s/r, q/p) is also an equilibrium point.

If x is not 0 we can do the same thing but get the same point again.
 

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