Find Expression for Acceleration of Figure w/ Frictionless Table

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The problem involves finding an expression for the acceleration of a system depicted in a figure, with the assumption that the table is frictionless. The discussion centers around the dynamics of two masses, m1 and m2, and their interactions through tension in a string.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the acceleration by analyzing the forces acting on each mass, leading to different expressions for tension and acceleration. Some participants question the assumptions made regarding the relationship between the accelerations of the two masses.

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Participants are exploring various interpretations of the problem, with some suggesting alternative expressions for acceleration. There is an ongoing inquiry into the correctness of the derived equations and the assumptions about the relationship between the accelerations of the two masses.

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There is a mention of a figure that is essential for understanding the problem, which was initially omitted. Some participants express confusion regarding the assumptions of acceleration being equal or different for the two masses.

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So the problem I am working on is: In the figure, find an expression for the acceleration of (assume that the table is frictionless). I have attached the figure of reference.

I have so far tried to solve by first looking at m2 to get:
2T-m_2*g=m_2*a so T= (m_2*(a+g))/2

Then by looking at m1 I got:
T=m_1*a so a=(m_2*g)/(2*m_1-m_2)
This is supposidely wrong.
Can anyone see what I did wrong and how to fix it?

Should it be a=(m_2*g)/(2*m_1+m_2) ?
 

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wheres the figure ?
 
sorry...forgot it at first
 
here is the image
 

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Any thoughts?
 
any smart person have any clue about where i went wrong?
 
how does a=(m_2*g)/(2*m_1+m_2) sound?
 
okay...when I assumed a1 not equal to a2 which i wasnt doing originally, i got 2T-m_2*g=-m_2*a_2 and T=m_1*a_1
sbsitiuting and shifting things around I got:

a_1=(m_2*g-m_2*a_2)/(2*m_1)

does thi seem right?

should my anyswer depend on a_2 or are they assumed to be the same, therefor giving me a=(m_2*g)/(2*m_1+m_2) ?

Can someone work the problem and tell me if they are getting what I have of something different?
 
notice that if there is no slipping, a_2 should be one half of a_1 because of the string.
 
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Did anyone solve this? I am working on the same problem and am completely stumped.
 

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