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The discussion revolves around determining the convergence or divergence of several infinite series, specifically focusing on the series: (a) \(\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}\frac{1}{3^{n-1}}\), (b) \(\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}\frac{4n^2+n}{(n^7-n^3)^{1/3}}\), and (c) \(\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}\frac{\sin^2n}{2^n}\). Participants explore various tests and approaches to analyze these series.

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  • Participants discuss the application of the ratio test and comparison test for parts (a) and (b), questioning the results and interpretations of limits obtained. There is also exploration of the squeeze theorem for part (c) and discussions on the implications of limits in relation to convergence.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications regarding the tests used. Some participants express uncertainty about the relationship between the limit values and the convergence of the series, while others attempt to refine their understanding of the tests and their applications.

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Participants are navigating through potential misunderstandings about the limits derived from tests and their implications for series convergence. There are indications of confusion regarding the definitions and applications of the tests, particularly in relation to the limits of the series.

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Homework Statement


Determine if the following series converges or diverges and find the limits for those series that converge.
[tex](a)\;\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}\frac{1}{3^{n-1}}[/tex]
[tex](b)\;\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}\frac{4n^2+n}{(n^7-n^3)^{1/3}}[/tex]
[tex](c)\;\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}\frac{\sin^2n}{2^n}[/tex]

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The nth-term test, ratio test, comparison test, geometric series, etc.

The Attempt at a Solution



For part (a): I used the ratio test and got the answer: 1/3 as the limit of the convergent series. However, the answer is supposed to be: 3/2?

For part (b): I used the comparison test. For n large, i used the following approximation:
[tex]v_n=\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}\frac{4n^2}{(n^7)^{1/3}}<br /> \\L=\lim_{n\to \infty}\frac{u_n}{v_n}=0\times {\infty}=0[/tex]
Since ##L = 0## and ##v_n## converges according to the p-series test, therefore the original series converges and the limit of the series is zero.
Apparently, it's wrong, as the series is supposed to be divergent.

For part (c): I'm thinking about the squeeze theorem to find if the limit is not zero.
[tex]0 \le \sin^2n\le 1<br /> \\\frac{0}{2^n} \le \frac{\sin^2n}{2^n}\le \frac{1}{2^n}[/tex]I'm stuck.

Edit: OK, i think i figured out part (b): The approximation was wrong. I then used 4/n and got a divergent series.
 
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For (a)

$$
\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{3^{n-1}} = 3\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^n
$$

The answer should be 9/2 not 3/2
 
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Dustinsfl said:
For (a)

$$
\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{1}{3^{n-1}} = 3\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\left(\frac{1}{3}\right)^n
$$
So, it's a geometric series, with a = 3 and r = 1/3. The limit of the series becomes: 9/2?

But using the ratio test, i get the limit as 1/3? Or does the ratio test only say if the series is convergent or divergent? But, additionally, does it also give the limit of the series, as the value of L? If not, then in the limit comparison test, the value of L is also not the limit of the series??
 
The rule is if L = 1 inconclusive, L < 1 converges, and L > 1 diverges.
 
Dustinsfl said:
The rule is if L = 1 inconclusive, L < 1 converges, and L > 1 diverges.
I know the value of L is used to determine if the series converges or not, but is that value of L also the limit of the original series?
 
L only tells you those 3 things. It doesn't tell you what the value is.
 
Dustinsfl said:
L only tells you those 3 things. It doesn't tell you what the value is.

OK thanks, i was trying to get confirmation on this. I have a bunch of problems which might be wrong because of this wrong assumption. :redface:

Any idea about part (c)?

Edit: Converting [itex]\sin^2n=1/2 - \cos 2n /2[/itex]
Then, [tex]\sum^{\infty}_{n=0}\frac{\sin^2n}{2^n}= \sum^{\infty}_{n=0} \frac{1}{2^{n-1}} - \sum^{\infty}_{n=0}\frac{\cos 2n}{2^{n-1}}[/tex]
But I'm not sure if this actually simplifies the problem.

Edit #2: OK, I'm trying to find another simpler way. How about factorizing [itex]2^n[/itex] out of the numerator and denominator? The limit gives 0 which isn't helpful.
 
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sharks said:
For part (c): I'm thinking about the squeeze theorem to find if the limit is not zero.
[tex]0 \le \sin^2n\le 1<br /> \\\frac{0}{2^n} \le \frac{\sin^2n}{2^n}\le \frac{1}{2^n}[/tex]I'm stuck.

If you had to find the sum Ʃ 1/2n, that's a geometric series (similar to the one in a) that converges, so the limit of 1/2n as n→∞ is 0. Now sin2n/2n is squeezed to 0 :smile:
 
Bohrok said:
The left side of the inequality will always be 0; now what's the limit of 1/2n as n→∞?

Zero. But the middle term of the inequality can't vary from 0 to 0. It doesn't make sense, unless the middle term itself is 0?
 
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Bohrok said:
If you had to find the sum Ʃ 1/2n, that's a geometric series (similar to the one in a) that converges, so the limit of 1/2n as n→∞ is 0. Now sin2n/2n is squeezed to 0 :smile:

I'm not sure, as the limit of sin2n/2n = 0, doesn't say anything about the series converging or diverging, nor anything about the limit of the series.

Here is another try on this problem: as n approaches infinity, [itex]0 \le \sin^2n\le 1[/itex] becomes [itex]sin^2n =1/2[/itex], which is the average value.

Then, using the comparison test: [tex]u_n=\frac{\sin^2n}{2^n}<br /> \\v_n=\frac{1/2}{2^n}= \frac{1}{2^{n-1}}<br /> \\u_n \le v_n[/tex]##v_n## is a geometric series that converges to 1, therefore ##u_n## converges.
 
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sharks said:
Zero. But the middle term of the inequality can't vary from 0 to 0. It doesn't make sense, unless the middle term itself is 0?

It doesn't vary from 0 to 0. sin2n/2n is squeezed above and below to 0 only as n→∞.

sharks said:
I'm not sure, as the limit of sin2n/2n = 0, doesn't say anything about the series converging or diverging, nor anything about the limit of the series.

You mean limit of the sequence, right? Someone may jump on you really hard if you don't specify whether you mean sequence or series. :wink:
Ʃ sin2n/2n converges since the sequence is less than 1/2n, whose sum converges.

sharks said:
Here is another try on this problem: as n approaches infinity, [itex]0 \le \sin^2n\le 1[/itex] becomes [itex]sin^2n =1/2[/itex], which is the average value.

Then, using the comparison test: [tex]u_n=\frac{\sin^2n}{2^n}<br /> \\v_n=\frac{1/2}{2^n}= \frac{1}{2^{n-1}}<br /> \\u_n \le v_n[/tex]##v_n## is a geometric series that converges to 1, therefore ##u_n## converges.

That inequality isn't correct, plus [itex]\frac{1}{n^{n-1}} = \frac{2}{2^n}, \text{not } \frac{1/2}{2^n}[/itex]; however if you had vn = 1/2n instead of 1/2n-1, that would converge. And since [tex]\sum\frac{1}{2^{n-1}} = 2\sum\frac{1}{2^n}[/tex] you could use that for your proof.
 

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