Find Magnitude and Angle of Vector B

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The discussion revolves around vector addition, specifically finding the magnitude and angle of an unknown vector B in the equation vector a + vector b = vector c. Given vectors a and c with specified magnitudes and angles, participants explore how to determine vector B's characteristics based on the provided information.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss calculating the components of vectors a and c, and whether to add or subtract these components to find vector B. There are questions about the signs of the components based on the angles given, particularly regarding the second vector's direction.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the correct approach to finding vector B, including the need to consider the signs of the components. There is ongoing clarification about the implications of the angles and whether the calculations align with the vector's quadrant. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored.

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There is a noted concern about the angles and whether they affect the signs of the components, particularly with vector c being defined in relation to the negative x direction. Participants are also checking the validity of their calculations against the problem's requirements.

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Homework Statement



in the sum vector a + vector b = vector c, vector a has a magnitude of 12.0m and is angled 40.0 degrees counterclockwise from the +x direction, and vector c has a magnitude of 15.0m and is angled 20.0 degrees counterclockwise from the -x direction

a)what is the magnitude
b) what is the angle (relative to +x) of vector B.


The Attempt at a Solution



i first found the x and y component of each vector:

so for vector a the x component would be 12 cos(40) and the y component would be 12 sin(40). for vector C the x component would be 15 cos (20) and the y component would be 15 sin (40). so do i just add the x components of the 2 vectors and the y component of the 2 vectors, do pythagorean theorem and find out what the magnitude is.
so would i be (12cos(40)*15cos(20))^2+(12sin(40)+15sin(20))^2 and then square root?
 
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That's the right idea.
Draw a triangle, where the first side is 12m at 40deg above X, then from the end of that draw a line 15m at 20deg below X, then draw a closing line back to the start - this is the resulatant vector.
 
Your problem said the second vector is at a 20 degree angle counterclockwise from the minus x direction. If that's not a typo, you need to think about whether the components of the second vector are positive or negative.
 
yeah, its not a typo, so the second vector will have negative x and y right? does the problem change if vector b is the unknown not vector c.
so what do you guys get, i am just checking my answers. i got 26.59 for the magnitude and 28.87 degrees. http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1294/image0027nb2.jpg
 
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If b is unknown, then b = c-a, that is, you subtract the components of a from the components of c. So your magnitude above looks like it is correct.
 
but i don't think i subtracted it though, i added Ax and Bx and Ay and By. so my answer in the pic is correct? and i think i get the same answer even if i subtracted
 
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Your Cx and Cy should both be negative, not positive (which should be clear from your picture). Then, since you are subtracting the positive A components from the negative C components, both terms in both Rx and Ry should be negative. Then, your magnitude of R is correct (I didn't actually check the numbers), but your angle is off by 180 degrees, since both Rx and Ry are negative.
 
so i add 180 to my theta since both rx and ry are negative going to third quadrant. and the R would be the same because i square it later in the pythagorean theorem, making it positive right?
 
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Right! (The magnitude of a vector is always positive.)
 

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