Find maximum velocity in Acceleration-Time Graph

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The discussion revolves around determining the maximum velocity of a particle using an acceleration-time graph. The original poster assumes an initial velocity of 0 and references a solution from a book stating the maximum velocity is 55 m/s.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the acceleration at each second and calculates the velocity based on these values. Some participants question the use of discrete time steps (n) and suggest using a continuous variable (t) instead. Others propose integrating the acceleration to find velocity or using the area under the graph to determine the maximum velocity.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various approaches to understanding the relationship between acceleration and velocity. Some participants have offered guidance on using integration or geometric interpretations of the graph. There is an exploration of different methods without a clear consensus on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of using specific time intervals versus a continuous function for acceleration. The original poster's assumption of initial velocity and the reference to a solution from a textbook are also points of consideration.

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Homework Statement


Find the maximum velocity of the particle using the graph given.(See attachment)

Homework Equations



Initial velocity was not given. I assumed it to be 0.

In book, the solution was 55m/s^2

The Attempt at a Solution



Initial acceleration was ##10m/s^2##. Final acceleration after 11 seconds was ##0m/s^2##.

I figured out that ##a_n=\frac{110-10(n-1)}{11}##, where n is the second and ##a_n## is the acceleration in ##n##th second.

I hope I am right at this step.

I think that velocity will be maximum at 11th second.

So I calculate the velocity at 1st second by
\begin{align*}v_n&amp;=v_{n-1}+\frac{a_n}{2}\\<br /> &amp;=v_{n-1}+\frac{55-5(n-1)}{11}\\\end{align*}<br />.

I derived this using identities of motion and my already derived ##a_n## formula.

<br /> v_0=0\\<br /> v_1=0+\frac{55-5(1-1)}{11}=5\\<br /> v_2=5+\frac{55-5(2-1)}{11}=\frac{105}{11}\\<br /> ...\\<br /> v_{11}=295/11\\<br />

I should get 55m/s.

Please help me out.
 

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Govind_Balaji said:
I figured out that ##a_n=\frac{110-10(n-1)}{11}##, where n is the second and ##a_n## is the acceleration in ##n##th second.
Does this equation recover the values of a at n=0 and n=11 that you know from looking at the graph?
 
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No, you can't do that. Don't use n. Use t and find an expression for the acceleration as a function of time a(t) where t is any number - not just a whole number. Than integrate the acceleration to find the velocity. If you don't know integrals than you probably know some theorem relating the change in velocity to the area in a graph of acceleration vs time. In this case the area is a triangle which can be solved without integrals.
 
dauto said:
No, you can't do that. Don't use n. Use t and find an expression for the acceleration as a function of time a(t) where t is any number - not just a whole number. Than integrate the acceleration to find the velocity. If you don't know integrals than you probably know some theorem relating the change in velocity to the area in a graph of acceleration vs time. In this case the area is a triangle which can be solved without integrals.

CAF123 said:
Does this equation recover the values of a at n=0 and n=11 that you know from looking at the graph?

Wait a minute!

I got a brilliant idea.

I know that the area below velocity-time graph gives the total displacement of the body.

I thought about it a while.

Velocity is the change of displacement over time.

Acceleration is the change of velocity over time.

Then , presto! Instead of velocity in velocity-time graph, we have acceleration.

Instead of distance(factor of velocity), we have velocity(factor of acceleration).

Hence the area under the graph is the max. velocity i.e. 55m/s.

After solving it, I came to this thread and also saw dauto saying the same.

Thank you CAF123.
 
Govind_Balaji said:
Wait a minute!

I got a brilliant idea.

I know that the area below velocity-time graph gives the total displacement of the body.

I thought about it a while.

Velocity is the change of displacement over time.

Acceleration is the change of velocity over time.

Then , presto! Instead of velocity in velocity-time graph, we have acceleration.

Instead of distance(factor of velocity), we have velocity(factor of acceleration).

Hence the area under the graph is the max. velocity i.e. 55m/s.

After solving it, I came to this thread and also saw dauto saying the same.

Thank you CAF123.


Excellent.
 

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