Find Minimal Polynomial for Matrix: Solution Help

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The discussion revolves around finding the minimal polynomial for a specific 7x7 matrix presented in Jordan form. Participants are exploring the properties of the matrix and its implications for determining the minimal polynomial.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • One participant suggests that the minimal polynomial might be m(t) = (t-2)⁷ based on their interpretation of the Jordan form, while another participant questions this and proposes that the correct minimal polynomial is m(t) = (t-2)⁴, citing the size of the largest Jordan block as a determining factor.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exchange where one participant expresses gratitude for the clarification provided regarding the minimal polynomial. Another participant introduces a more general method for determining the minimal polynomial using algorithms from computer algebra systems, indicating a productive exploration of different approaches.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the implications of the Jordan form and the characteristics of the matrix, including the size of the Jordan blocks, which are central to determining the minimal polynomial. There is a mention of linear dependence in relation to finding the minimal polynomial in a broader context.

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Homework Statement


Given the matrix
2 0 0 0 0 0 0
1 2 0 0 0 0 0
0 1 2 0 0 0 0
0 0 1 2 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 2 0 0
0 0 0 0 1 2 0
0 0 0 0 0 0 2

What is the minimal polynomial?

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This is the Jordan form, so I guess the solution is just m(t) = (t-2)7 but I don't know if it's right. Can anyone help me?
 
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cristina89 said:

Homework Statement


Given the matrix
2 0 0 0 0 0 0
1 2 0 0 0 0 0
0 1 2 0 0 0 0
0 0 1 2 0 0 0
0 0 0 0 2 0 0
0 0 0 0 1 2 0
0 0 0 0 0 0 2

What is the minimal polynomial?

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The Attempt at a Solution



This is the Jordan form, so I guess the solution is just m(t) = (t-2)7 but I don't know if it's right. Can anyone help me?

Hi cristina89! :smile:

The minimal polynomial P of a square matrix A is the unique monic polynomial of least degree, m, such that P(A) = 0.

The degree of the minimal polynomial is determined by the size of the largest Jordan block, which is 4 in your case.
So the minimal polynomial is m(t) = (t-2)4.

Indeed ##(A-2I)^4=0##.
 
Thank you so much! :)
 
cristina89 said:
Thank you so much! :)

The method suggested above is by far the simplest way to deal with this specific problem, but in a more general case you can use the algorithms employed by computer algebra systems, such as Maple: regard A, A^2, A^3,... as n^2-dimensional vectors, then find the smallest k such the vectors I, A, A^2,..,A^k are linearly dependent---essentially, using standard linear algebra methods. This will also deliver the coefficients and hence the minimal polynomial.
 

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