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To find point E that forms a harmonic range with points A, B, and C, the cross ratio must equal -1. The coordinates of points A, B, and C are given, and the calculation involves setting up the cross ratio equation based on their coordinates. However, a key issue arises as the points A, B, and C are not collinear, which is a requirement for defining a harmonic range. This discrepancy suggests that the problem may be flawed or misinterpreted, as harmonic ranges are typically defined for four collinear points. The discussion emphasizes the importance of collinearity in applying the cross ratio concept correctly.
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A=$\begin{bmatrix}1\\1\\0\end{bmatrix}$, B=$\begin{bmatrix}3\\1\\-1\end{bmatrix}$

C=$\begin{bmatrix}5\\3\\-1\end{bmatrix}$, D=$\begin{bmatrix}4\\0\\-2\end{bmatrix}$

Find the coordinates of a point E such that A,B,C,E forms a harmonic range. This means that the cross ratio is -1.
 
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Poirot said:
A=$\begin{bmatrix}1\\1\\0\end{bmatrix}$, B=$\begin{bmatrix}3\\1\\-1\end{bmatrix}$

C=$\begin{bmatrix}5\\3\\-1\end{bmatrix}$, D=$\begin{bmatrix}4\\0\\-2\end{bmatrix}$

Find the coordinates of a point E such that A,B,C,E forms a harmonic range. This means that the cross ratio is -1.

Hi Poirot, :)

Let, \(E\equiv (x,y,z)\). Write down the cross ratio considering the \(x\), \(y\) and \(z\) coordinates of the points \(A\), \(B\), \(C\) and \(E\). For example,

\[(A,B,C,E)=\frac{AC}{BC}: \frac{AE}{AB}=\frac{1-5}{3-5}:\frac{1-x}{1-3}\]

Since \(A\), \(B\), \(C\) and \(E\) are in harmonic range, \((A,B,C,E)=-1\). Therefore,

\[(A,B,C,E)=\frac{1-5}{3-5}:\frac{1-x}{1-3}=-1\]

Find \(x\). Similarly you can also find \(y\) and \(z\). More information about Cross ratios can be found http://www.ping.be/math/cross.htm#Dividing-ratio.

Kind Regards,
Sudharaka.
 
Poirot said:
A=$\begin{bmatrix}1\\1\\0\end{bmatrix}$, B=$\begin{bmatrix}3\\1\\-1\end{bmatrix}$

C=$\begin{bmatrix}5\\3\\-1\end{bmatrix}$, D=$\begin{bmatrix}4\\0\\-2\end{bmatrix}$

Find the coordinates of a point E such that A,B,C,E forms a harmonic range. This means that the cross ratio is -1.
There is something puzzling about this question. A harmonic range is normally only defined for four collinear points. If you have three collinear points then you can find a fourth point on the line making up a harmonic range, using the method described by Sudharaka. But in this problem the three given points are not collinear. You can easily see this because the points $A$ and $B$ have the same $y$-coordinate 1, but $C$ has $y$-coordinate 3. If the points were collinear that could not happen.
 
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