Find Resistance: Solve V vs. I w/ Tangent Line

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The discussion revolves around determining resistance values from a voltage versus current graph, specifically using the slope of tangent lines at various points on a smooth curve. The problem involves understanding the relationship between voltage, current, and resistance in a non-linear context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the method of finding resistance through the slope of tangent lines rather than the direct application of R = V/I. Questions arise regarding the validity of the obtained resistance values and the implications of the problem's constraints.

Discussion Status

Some participants have suggested that the problem may be seeking the incremental resistance (dV/dI) due to the non-linear relationship between voltage and current. There is acknowledgment of the need for a smooth curve fitting to the data, and various methods for achieving this have been proposed. However, there is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or interpretation of the problem.

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Participants note that the resistance of the bulb may change with temperature, which could affect the measurements. There is also mention of experimental uncertainty and the need for a best fit curve that passes through the origin, which adds complexity to the analysis.

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Homework Statement


Using the smooth curve for V vs. I and find values for R for the seven values of V and I.

Homework Equations



P = VI
R ≠ V/I

The Attempt at a Solution


I got the slope of the tangent line and got .002Ω for each point... Doesn't seem like a correct value. Can someone tell me how to get R. It is hinted something about the tangent line. I can't use the formula R = V/I for some reason stated on the paper.
 

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I find this question bizarre. To the best of my knowledge, R = V/I by definition. They seem to want you to find the marginal resistance, i.e. ΔV/ΔI for some small change in voltage, but that is not the resistance of the lamp.
 
The resistance of the bulb increases as it gets hotter. As haruspex points out, what they seem to be looking for here is the incremental resistance dV/dI (since the relationship between V and I is non-linear).

Your data has some experimental uncertainty to it, so you need to fit a smooth curve to the data (of course, passing through the origin). You can use a French curve to do this, or you can do it with a graphics package to obtain a best fit using a low order (say 2 or 3 degree) polynomial. If you do it using a French curve, you can draw tangents to the smooth curve and obtain dV/dI from the slope of the tangent lines. If you do it with a graphics package, the package will provide the equation for the best fit polynomial, and you differentiate to get dV/dI.
 

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