Find RPM of a fan by recording a video

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The forum discussion centers on a method to approximate the RPM of a table fan using a mobile phone camera and a stopwatch. The user paints a black dot on one of the fan blades and records a video at 240 frames per second (fps) while timing with a stopwatch. By counting the number of times the dotted blade points upwards within a set time frame, the user can calculate the RPM. The discussion highlights the importance of frame rate and sampling accuracy, suggesting that higher frame rates yield more reliable results for RPM measurements.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of video recording techniques, specifically frame rates (e.g., 60 fps, 240 fps).
  • Basic knowledge of RPM calculations and how to convert frame counts to revolutions per minute.
  • Familiarity with video playback software, such as VLC, for frame-by-frame analysis.
  • Awareness of aliasing effects in video sampling and their impact on measurement accuracy.
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  • Research the Nyquist criterion and its implications for video sampling rates.
  • Explore mobile apps for audio spectrum analysis to measure fan blade frequency.
  • Investigate different video recording techniques to improve measurement accuracy, such as lighting conditions and background uniformity.
  • Learn about the effects of varying power input on fan RPM and efficiency, including the use of resistors and step-down transformers.
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This discussion is beneficial for DIY enthusiasts, engineers, and anyone interested in measuring and comparing the performance of electric fans using basic tools and techniques.

  • #31
jrmichler said:
There is no simple easy way to get a good measurement of the percentage of air back flowing. But you can get a good idea by generating a thin stream of smoke that gets sucked into the fan. Just be aware that the percentage of back flow depends on the back pressure. If the fan is pushing into the wind, or trying to suck air out of a closed room, there will be more back flow. The back flow could range from near zero to 100% depending on the back pressure.
But since this back flow is always occurring since there is such a wide gap, it would probably make sense to make the gap smaller since it takes mere minutes to make a wooden frame. It's hard to judge by hand since air blown into hand is felt a lot more than air being pulled away from hand. If i put a hand behind the fan, i barely notice anything but if i stand besides a window in the other room, its almost like a fan was blowing towards me. Do you have any idea what might be a good way to make such smoke to see ? A single cigarette isnt enough to see at this high speed and mist maker module is not good for the same reason - airflow is so high that it disapears into thin air as soon as you put it behind or infront of a fan.
 
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  • #33
Your principle is sound.

I'm not aware that any camera would "Fake" 240 frames per second by shooting at 60 and interpolating in the camera. That would completely moot the point of having a high frame rate! I think photographers would make a fuss if some manufacturer tried that. Interpolation in post makes more sense, since the user could judge when it was appropriate and when it wasn't. I've seen some GoPro demos that had interpolated frames, but I figured they were taking the advertised 120fps and playing it back at 15fps. (1/8 speed)

The timing from your camera should be exactly what it tells you. The only variation might be that 60 is often 59.97, and 30/120 might follow that pattern. 50 fps should be exactly 50. If you are seeing uneven progressions of frames, that might be on the video player.

I disagree about shooting at night. The more light you have, the better, as this will cause a shorter shutter angle and less motion blur. Your photos are backlit. That would make your clock hard to read but in your case that shouldn't be a big deal otherwise. (I'm assuming artistic issues are relevant in this case.)
 
  • #34
Algr said:
I'm not aware that any camera would "Fake" 240 frames per second by shooting at 60 and interpolating in the camera.
Dunno if it's available in smart home cameras but a posh TV receiver does Motion Smoothing when it upscales the frame rate. However, the Nyquist limit still applies when there are long lasting bursts of high temporal picture frequencies ( repeating fan blade positions etc.) The aim, in all this processing is to produce an overall best result and sometimes things have to be impaired or blurred in order to make a pretty picture. Jerky motion is annoying so that's dealt with when possible. (The smoothing can be switched off, afaiaa)

Modern image processing has to be very clever when you want to get many HD programmes down a limited bandwidth.
 

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