Find sin(ax): Standard Procedure for Sin, Cos & Tan

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The discussion centers on finding expressions for trigonometric functions such as sin(ax), cos(ax), and tan(ax), exploring various methods and identities related to these functions. The scope includes theoretical approaches, mathematical reasoning, and the application of trigonometric identities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the standard procedure for finding expressions like sin(4x) and whether it applies to cos and tan as well.
  • Another participant mentions known formulas for double angle identities, including sin(2a), cos(2a), and tan(2a), but expresses uncertainty about a general formula for sin(ax).
  • A different participant introduces trigonometric identities for sums, suggesting a generalization by substituting variables to find recursion relationships.
  • One participant references de Moivre's theorem to derive identities for sin and cos, providing a specific expression for cos(4θ) and indicating a similar approach for sin.
  • Another participant extends the previous point by discussing the imaginary parts of complex exponentials and providing formulas for sin(aθ) based on whether a is odd or even.
  • A later reply corrects a mistake from an earlier post and suggests that the imaginary units can be removed by considering different cases for a.

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Participants express various methods and identities without reaching a consensus on a single standard procedure for finding sin(ax), cos(ax), or tan(ax). Multiple competing views and approaches remain in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note limitations in their approaches, such as the dependence on specific cases for a or the need for further verification of derived identities.

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What is the standard procedure if one wants to find an expression for for example sin(4x)? Is this procedure the same also for cos and tan? :smile:
 
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I'm not entirely sure if there is a general formula for all \sin {(xa)}
or not, but I do know there are formulas for all the double angle varieties:

<br /> \sin{(2a)} = 2\sin{(a)}\cos{(a)}<br />

<br /> \cos{(2a)} = 1 - 2\sin^2{(a)}<br />

<br /> \tan{(2a)}=\frac{2\tan{(a)}}{1-\tan^2{(a)}}<br />
 
Starting with trigonomtric identities:

sin(x+y) = sin x cos y + sin y cos x

cos(x+y) = cos x cos y - sin x sin y

tan(x+y) = ( tan x + tan y )/( 1 - tan x tan y )

One can generalize by letting x = mx and y = ny or nx.

Then one can find recursion relationship.

Hint: nx = (n-1)x + x
 
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if you know de Moivre's rule:

e^{i \theta} = cos(\theta) + i sin(\theta)

Then you get the identities you want like this:

(e^{i \theta})^4 = e^{4 i \theta}

[cos(\theta) + i sin(\theta)]^4 = cos(4 \theta) + i sin(4 \theta)

If you multiply out the left side, then you can equate the real and imaginary terms, since sin and cos are pure real here.

youll get something like:

cos(4 \theta) = cos^4(\theta) - 6 sin^2(\theta)cos^2(\theta) + sin^4(\theta)

and a similar expression for sin. tan is just sin/cos. i just did this in my head, so you should probably check to make sure its right.
 
Extending from what StatusX just said:

Taking the imaginary parts of both sides:

(\cos \theta + i \sin \theta)^a = \cos a \theta + i \sin a \theta

We get:

\sin a \theta = \text{Im} \left( \sum_{k=0}^a \left( \begin{array}{c}a \\k \end{array} \right) \left( \cos \theta \right)^k \left( i \sin \theta \right)^{a-k} \right)

Therefore when a is odd:

\sin a \theta = \text{Im} \left( (i\sin \theta)^a + \frac{a}{(a-2)!2!} (i\sin \theta)^{a-2} \cos^2 \theta + \frac{a}{(a-4)!4!} (i\sin \theta)^{a-4} \cos^4 \theta + \ldots \right)

When a is even:

\sin a \theta = \text{Im} \left( \frac{a!}{(a-1)!1!} (i\sin \theta)^{a-1} \cos \theta + \frac{a!}{(a-3)!3!} (i\sin \theta)^{a-3} \cos^3 \theta + \ldots \right)


If you have time and patience you can rearrange the equation for the cosine(ax) function and express purely in terms of cosine(x) by using the simple identity:

\cos^2 \theta + \sin^2 \theta \equiv 1

I always find formulas like this give you some appreciation for the very simple and powerful fact that if:

x + iy = u + iv

then:

x=u

and:

y=v
 
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Sorry made a big mistake in the post above, edited it out now. Also note you can remove the i's from the above equations by looking at a=4n, a=4n+1, a=4n+2 and a=4n+3.
 

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