Find Term with Power in Binomial Expansion: x^81y^30

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The discussion revolves around finding a specific term in the binomial expansion of \((x^3 + y^2)^{42}\) that includes \(y^{15}\). Participants are exploring the implications of the powers involved and the validity of the original poster's calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are examining the conditions under which a term with \(y^{15}\) can exist, questioning the evenness of the powers of \(y\) and the implications of the binomial expansion formula. Some are considering the factorial simplification and the feasibility of expanding the binomial directly.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the reasoning behind the absence of the specified term. There is acknowledgment of the challenges in finding a term that meets the criteria, and some participants are sharing their thought processes and calculations.

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Participants note that the powers of \(y\) in the expansion are always even, which raises questions about the existence of a term with an odd exponent like \(y^{15}\). There is also mention of potential issues with the original problem statement and the need for clarity on the factorial calculations.

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Homework Statement


Find the term with the specified power in the expansion of the given binomial power.
[tex] \left( {x^3 + y^2 } \right)^{42} ,\,\,\,\,\,y^{15} [/tex]


Homework Equations


[tex]{\rm{term}} = \frac{{n!}}{{r!\left( {n - r} \right)!}}x^{n - r} y^r[/tex]



The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]\begin{array}{l}<br /> {\rm{term}} = \frac{{42!}}{{15!\left( {42 - 15} \right)!}}x^{3 \cdot \left( {42 - 15} \right)} y^{2 \cdot 15} \\ <br /> \\ <br /> {\rm{term}} = \frac{{42!}}{{15!\left( {27} \right)!}}x^{81} y^{30} \\ <br /> {\rm{term}} = {\rm{98672427616}}\,x^{81} y^{30} \\ <br /> \end{array}[/tex]

The back of the book says no such term exists. Why? Is it because x has an exponent that is higher than n? x^3 doesn't have a higher exponent, and I thought that's all that mattered.

Also, is there a way of simplifying that factorial so I don't have to rely completely on the calculator to solve? Thanks!
 
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I would think a [itex]y^{15}[/itex] term does not exist because every [itex]y[/itex] term is raised to an even power? I've never used the formula before to calculate the term with the given binomial power so I can't comment on that part if you did it correctly.

For this factorial there isn't much else you can do except rewrite [itex]\displaystyle\frac{42!}{15! \cdot 27!}[/itex] as [itex]\displaystyle\frac{(42 \cdot 41 \cdot \cdot \cdot 28)27!}{15! \cdot 27!} = \frac{(42 \cdot 41 \cdot \cdot \cdot 28)}{15!}[/itex] and then cancel out like terms to get rid of the 15!.
 
Thanks! The longer I stared at this, I started to realize that there's nothing I can multiply by 2 that will give me 15. So I imagine that "does not exist" is also the answer to[tex]\left( {x^3 + y^2 } \right)^{42} ,\,\,\,\,\,y^{15}[/tex]
This is an even question, so no back of book answer.
 
Well, no number in the inters to multiply 2 by to get 15! :P

I think you recopied the problem from the first post, but did it involve another instance where you can't multiply an integer to get the specified power?
 
oops, my copy and paste skills need improving!
[tex]\left( {x^3 + y^2 } \right)^{107} ,\,\,\,\,y^{77}[/tex]
 
Yeah, same type of case.
 
Going back to the first example, if, rather than use the formula, I decide to actually waste a few sheets of paper expanding this this thing, my first few terms will be
[tex] x^{3\left( {42} \right)} y^{2\left( 0 \right)} + x^{3\left( {41} \right)} y^{2\left( 1 \right)} + x^{3\left( {40} \right)} y^{2\left( 2 \right)} + x^{3\left( {39} \right)} y^{2\left( 3 \right)} + ...[/tex]
which is pretty much all I need to tell me that y^15 will never happen.

Thanks for the late night help!
 
Don't forget to use pascal's triangle to put the correct coefficients in front of the terms! But, yep, that's why there is no term!
 

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