Find the area between three curves

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The discussion revolves around finding the area enclosed by three curves defined by the equations y+x=4, y-x=0, and y+3x=2. Participants are attempting to compute this area using integrals along the x or y axis.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss setting up integrals based on the identified intersection points of the curves. There is an exploration of which functions should be considered "top" and "bottom" in the integrals, with some confusion noted regarding the limits of integration and the correctness of the intersection points.

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Some participants have provided guidance on checking the intersection points and ensuring the correct limits of integration are used. There is an ongoing exploration of potential errors in calculations, particularly in evaluating the integrals and applying the limits correctly.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the amount of direct assistance they can receive. There is an emphasis on understanding the graphical representation of the curves and the implications for integration.

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Homework Statement


Sketch the region enclosed by the curves and compute its area as an integral along the x or y axis.
y+x=4 y-x=0 y+3x=2

Homework Equations



∫ top function - bottom function dx OR ∫ right function-left function dy

The Attempt at a Solution


I originally had chosed to integrate with respect to y, I solved all equations for y as follows:
y=4-x y=x y=2-3x

I set all equations equal to each other to find three intersection x values: These are
x=2, x=-2, and x=1/2

This makes since considering the way I sketched the graph: see attachment.

photo (18).jpg
Now the Area is shaded in orange and labeled A: to set up the integral I did:
1/2
∫ (4-x)-(2-3x) dx = 2x+x2 evaluated from -2 to 1/2
-2

My answer to this integral was (5/4)

Then I took this integral:
2
∫ (4-x)-(x) = 4x-x2 evaluated from 1/2 to 2
1/2

My answer to this integral was (7/4)

It was olvious to me at this point that something went wrong because (5/4)-(7/4)=-(1/2) and areas cannot be negative.

This is the first time I've attempted to find the area between three curves. I am not sure how to arrange the integrals and which one is considered "top" or "bottom" because the graph that I drew shows the lower functions switching, which I tried to reflect in my calculations.

I'm really working hard to wrap my head around this stuff, so any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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MissEuropa said:

Homework Statement


Sketch the region enclosed by the curves and compute its area as an integral along the x or y axis.
y+x=4 y-x=0 y+3x=2

Homework Equations



∫ top function - bottom function dx OR ∫ right function-left function dy

The Attempt at a Solution


I originally had chosed to integrate with respect to y, I solved all equations for y as follows:
y=4-x y=x y=2-3x

I set all equations equal to each other to find three intersection x values: These are
x=2, x=-2, and x=1/2


The lines y=4-x , and y=2-3x intersect at x = -1 not at x = -2.

By the way, the lines y=4-x, and y=x are perpendicular to each other, so it's easy to check the answer.
 
Thanks, I wouldn't of caught that.
So I've edited my limits of integration:
1/2
∫ ((4-x)-(2-3x)) = 4.25
-1

2
∫ ((4-x)-(x))= (7/4)
1/2

4.25-(7/4) = 2.5

Alas, I am still incorrect. Is there something else I am missing?

Thanks again.
 
MissEuropa said:
Thanks, I wouldn't of caught that.
So I've edited my limits of integration:
1/2
∫ ((4-x)-(2-3x))dx = 4.25
-1

2
∫ ((4-x)-(x))dx= (7/4)
1/2

4.25-(7/4) = 2.5

Alas, I am still incorrect. Is there something else I am missing?

Thanks again.


Be careful with your signs !

You integrations are correct in the previous post.

You are messing up when plugging in the limits of integration.
 

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