Find the current in the copper wire

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The discussion revolves around calculating the current in a cylindrical shell of wire, specifically addressing the current contained within a defined radius and the total current through the wire. The context includes the application of equations related to current density and resistance in a copper wire.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss methods for calculating current using area and current density equations. There is mention of differing approaches, including the use of integration, and how these methods impact the results. Questions arise regarding the necessity of integration for accurate calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts to solve the problem, with some participants noting discrepancies in their results and exploring the reasons behind these differences. Guidance has been offered regarding the importance of integration in obtaining correct answers, and one participant reports successfully reworking their solution after applying this advice.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the need for careful consideration of the areas involved in the calculations and the implications of using different methods. There is an acknowledgment of varying results among peers, which raises questions about the assumptions made in their approaches.

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Homework Statement



a) What is the current contained in the cylindrical shell of wire defined by R/2<r<R?

b) What is the total current running through the wire?

c) Given your answer to (b) what potential difference V must be applied between the ends of the wire?

Homework Equations



J=ar
i=JA
A=\pir^{2}
R=ρL/A

The Attempt at a Solution



For part a I found the area of the shell by subtracting the area of two circles with radius R and R/2. I then used that to find the current using equations i=JA and J=aR/2. For part b i did the same thing except used A=\pir^{2} for the area and J=aR. As for part c I found the resistance using the equation R=ρL/A with ρ=1.68x10^{-8} Ωm and the area the same as from part a. Then I used the answer for b with ohm's law to get the voltage. A classmate of mine did this problem differently and had different answers for part a and c (b was the same).
 

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You realize you need to do some integrations here.
 
Well my classmate used integrations for his and like I said we had the same answer for b but for a our answers were different by a multiply of two. At the time I hadn't completed c so i couldn't compare those answers.
 
Maiq said:
Well my classmate used integrations for his and like I said we had the same answer for b but for a our answers were different by a multiply of two. At the time I hadn't completed c so i couldn't compare those answers.

The important thing is not to get the right answer, it's to understand what to do. You need to integrate. If you got the right answer without integrating you just lucked out.
 
Maiq said:
I then used that to find the current using equations i=JA and J=aR/2.
J=aR/2 gives the current density only at r=R/2, the least of the range of values for J. And it won't help to take the average of aR/2 and aR, because there's more area outside 3a/4 than inside 3a/4. This is why you need integration.
 
Alright I reworked part a using integration and checked the professors solution and I got it right. I see now why my answer was wrong thanks a lot for the help guys.
 

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