Find the deflection of the following points

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The discussion revolves around calculating the deflection of specific points in a mechanical system under various forces and material properties. Participants explore the application of formulas related to stress, strain, and deflection in the context of a problem involving different cross-sectional areas and forces.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a calculation for deflection (\(\delta_B\)) using given forces, areas, and Young's modulus, but expresses uncertainty about the correctness of the result.
  • Another participant suggests that the forces used in the calculation of \(\delta_B\) are incorrect and recommends using free body diagrams to sum forces for equilibrium.
  • A question is raised regarding the consistency of applying the same method to all terms in the deflection calculation.
  • A participant mentions a similar problem where a different approach yielded correct results, implying that the method may depend on specific conditions.
  • One participant acknowledges the feedback received, indicating a collaborative effort to resolve the issue.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach to calculating deflection, as there are competing views on the application of forces and methods used in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the application of equilibrium conditions and the specific method for calculating deflection in this scenario. The discussion reflects varying approaches to similar problems, which may influence the outcomes.

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A1=8*10-4m2
A2=5*10-4m2
E=70*109Pa
F1=-100*103N
F2=75*103N
F3=50*103N

\sigma=F/A
\epsilon=\sigma/E = \frac{F}{A*E}
\delta=\epsilon*L = \frac{F*L}{A*E}


\deltaB = \frac{F1*1.75}{A1*E} + \frac{F2*3}{A1*E} + \frac{F3*3}{A2*E} = 5.1785*10-3m


but that's not right


even looking at the second answer
i thought

\deltaD=\deltaB + \frac{F3*1.5}{A2*E}
but if i plug in THEIR answer for \deltaD i get 2.924mm and not the 5.7 they say
 

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The forces used in the second and third terms of your equation for \delta_B are wrong. You have to take a cut at each point, draw a free body diagram and sum the forces for equilibrium
 
if so, then why not for the 1st term as well?
 
for a similar problem, but where the diameter was constant and the E was different for the 2 parts, i did exactly that and it worked.
 
i got it, thankls for the help
 

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