Find the distance from the source of power

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The problem involves calculating the distance from a point source of power based on a given decibel level. The subject area pertains to acoustics and intensity calculations related to sound power and its propagation.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the conversion of decibels to intensity and the application of the intensity formula. There is a focus on verifying calculations and ensuring the correct use of logarithmic functions.

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Participants are actively engaging in checking each other's calculations and clarifying the steps involved in the conversion and rearrangement of the formula. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct manipulation of the equation.

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There is an indication of confusion regarding the rearrangement of the formula and the conversion process, which may affect the results. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their calculations, highlighting a common challenge in applying mathematical concepts to physical problems.

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Homework Statement


A point source power outputs a power of 100 W. If a decibel reading of 118 dB is heard, what is the distance to the observer.


Homework Equations


I = P/(4*pi*r^2)



The Attempt at a Solution


This should be simple, but for some reason my numbers aren't matching up.

First I converted 118 dB to an intensity of .6309 w/m^2 Then I plug it back into the equation and solve for r which comes out to be 4.471 meters.

So then to check it I put the 4.471 m back into the equation to see if it equals my intensity which it doesn't. I'm not sure where I went wrong on this one. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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What are you using to convert dB to intensity? Are you using the log function correctly?
 
Yes, I think so. 118 = 10 log (I/Io) Io = 10^(-12) so,
118 = 10 log (I/10^(-12))
11.8 = log (I/10^(-12))
10^(11.8) = (I/10^(-12)
I = 0.6309 w/m^2
Is that correct?
 
demonslayer42 said:
Yes, I think so. 118 = 10 log (I/Io) Io = 10^(-12) so,
118 = 10 log (I/10^(-12))
11.8 = log (I/10^(-12))
10^(11.8) = (I/10^(-12)
I = 0.6309 w/m^2
Is that correct?

Sorry, that seems fine. Read it wrong the first time.
 
Right, gone through it properly I get r = 3.55m.

Your values are correct, check how you re-arrange your equation.

I = P / (4*pi*r2)

(4*pi*r2) = P / I

r2 = ((P / I) / 4*pi)

r = sqrt( (P/I) / 4*pi )
 
omg, I feel so dumb lol yeah that's where I messed up. Instead of (P/I)/(4*pi) I did (P/I*4*pi). Thank you for your help :)
 

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