Find the energy levels of a spin s = 3/2 particle

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The discussion revolves around finding the energy levels of a spin \( s = \frac{3}{2} \) particle, with a specific Hamiltonian provided. The Hamiltonian includes terms involving the spin operators and constants, and participants are exploring the implications of these terms on the energy levels.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss rewriting the Hamiltonian and substituting matrix representations for the spin operators. There is uncertainty about the next steps, particularly regarding the evaluation of energy for different \( m_s \) values. Questions arise about the conventions for ordering these values when computing matrix elements.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing insights into the Hamiltonian's structure and questioning the appropriateness of the matrix representations used. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance on conventions for evaluating matrix elements has been shared.

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Participants note that the matrix representations provided may only be valid for spin-1/2 particles, raising questions about the assumptions made in the original post. Additionally, there is mention of a potential mistake made by the lecturer regarding the spin value.

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Homework Statement



Find the energy levels of a spin ##s=\frac{3}{2}## particle whose Hamiltonian is given by:

##\hat{H}=\frac{a_1}{\hbar^2}(\hat{S}^2-\hat{S}_x^2-\hat{S}_y^2)-\frac{a_2}{\hbar}\hat{S}_z## where ##a_1## and ##a_2## are constants.

Homework Equations



In the ##\hat{S}_z## basis ##\hat{S}_z## and ##\hat{S}^2## have the following matrix representations:

##\hat{S}_z=\frac{1}{2}\hbar\begin{bmatrix}1&&0\\0&&-1\end{bmatrix}##

##\hat{S}^2=\frac{3}{4}\hbar^2\begin{bmatrix}1&&0\\0&&1\end{bmatrix}##

The Attempt at a Solution



We can rewrite the Hamiltonian as follows:

##\hat{H}=\frac{a_1}{\hbar^2}(2\hat{S}_z^2-\hat{S}^2)-\frac{a_2}{\hbar}\hat{S}_z##

Subbing the matrices in the "relevant equations" I get the following matrix representation for the Hamiltonian:

##\hat{H}=\frac{-1}{4}\begin{bmatrix}a_1+2a_2&&0\\0&&a_1-2a_2\end{bmatrix}##

I'm not sure where to go from here... since ##s=\frac{3}{2}## then ##m_s=-\frac{3}{2},-\frac{1}{2},\frac{1}{2},\frac{3}{2}##. Is the next step to work out the energy for each of these ##m_s## values?
So find: ##\langle\frac{3}{2},-\frac{3}{2}|\hat{H}|\frac{3}{2},-\frac{3}{2}\rangle,\langle\frac{3}{2},-\frac{1}{2}|\hat{H}|\frac{3}{2},-\frac{1}{2}\rangle,\langle\frac{3}{2},\frac{1}{2}|\hat{H}|\frac{3}{2},\frac{1}{2}\rangle,\langle\frac{3}{2},\frac{3}{2}|\hat{H}|\frac{3}{2},\frac{3}{2}\rangle,##? If so, I am a little confused as to the vector forms of some of those bras and kets.. Help is appreciated!

(Oh and by the way, my Lecturer made a mistake when he said a particle with spin s = 3/2, but he said to do the question regardless)
 
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pondzo said:

Homework Equations



In the ##\hat{S}_z## basis ##\hat{S}_z## and ##\hat{S}^2## have the following matrix representations:

##\hat{S}_z=\frac{1}{2}\hbar\begin{bmatrix}1&&0\\0&&-1\end{bmatrix}##

##\hat{S}^2=\frac{3}{4}\hbar^2\begin{bmatrix}1&&0\\0&&1\end{bmatrix}##
Those relations hold only for spin one-half particles. You don't need matrix representation actually, just use the fact that ##S^2 = S_x^2 + S_y^2 + S_z^2## to modify the first three terms contained in the bracket in the Hamiltonian.
 
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Hi Blue leaf, I realized this after I made the post and I think I have the correct answer now.

I just have one question: Is there a convention as to which order you evaluate the different ##m_j## values when computing the matrix elements? Is it ascending or descending?
 
pondzo said:
I just have one question: Is there a convention as to which order you evaluate the different ##m_j## values when computing the matrix elements? Is it ascending or descending?
It is usually descending, just like for a spin-1/2 particle:
$$\hat{S}_z=\frac{1}{2}\hbar\begin{bmatrix}1&0\\0&-1\end{bmatrix}$$

spin-3/2:
$$\hat{S}_z=\frac{1}{2}\hbar\begin{bmatrix}3&0&0&0\\0&1&0&0\\0&0&-1&0\\0&0&0&-3 \end{bmatrix}$$
But it is always better to specify which convention is used.
 
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Ok thanks for the help!
 

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