Find the kinetic energy of the alpha particle

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The discussion revolves around calculating the kinetic energy of an alpha particle resulting from the decay of Uranium-232 into Thorium-228 and the alpha particle itself. Participants are examining the implications of the problem's context, particularly regarding the rest frame of the U-232 atom.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial calculation of kinetic energy based on mass differences and the application of energy conservation principles. There is uncertainty about the meaning of "in the rest frame of U-232" and how it affects the kinetic energy calculation. Some participants explore the momentum conservation aspect and how it relates to the energy distribution between the alpha particle and Thorium.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the assumptions made in the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of momentum conservation in determining the kinetic energy of the alpha particle, and there is acknowledgment of the need for clarity on the rest frame concept.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted uncertainty regarding the source of the equation used for calculating the kinetic energy of the alpha particle and the implications of the rest frame on the observed kinetic energy. Participants are also considering the effects of mass distribution on the final energy results.

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Homework Statement



For the decay " Uranium-232 ---> Thorium-228 + alpha particle ",

What is the alpha particle's kinetic energy in the U-232 atom's rest frame?
We are given the masses for each one.

Homework Equations



E = mc^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried mass(U-232) - (mass(Th-228) + mass(α) ) = 5.9 x 10^ -3 u
And multiplied this by 931.5 to get E = 5.5 MeV.

Is this all there is to it? I was unsure what it meant by "in rest frame of U-232"
 
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To conserve momentum, both Thorium and the alpha particle will move afterwards (in the rest frame of the initial nucleus). Therefore, Thorium will get some fraction of the released energy.
 
Kyrios said:
I was unsure what it meant by "in rest frame of U-232"
It's conceivable, for example, that the uranium atom would be moving in the lab frame, and the question could have asked for the kinetic energy of the alpha particle that an observer at rest in the lab frame would see.
 
mfb said:
To conserve momentum, both Thorium and the alpha particle will move afterwards (in the rest frame of the initial nucleus). Therefore, Thorium will get some fraction of the released energy.

I'm trying to work out the Kinetic energy of the alpha particle using this equation now:

KE_α = \frac{Q}{1+ \frac{m_α}{m_x}}

Where Q is the energy I had before, the 5.5 MeV
m_α is the mass of the alpha particle and m_x is the thorium mass

I get a similar but slightly smaller answer, 5.4 MeV. Is that the right way of going about it?
 
I don't know where the equation comes from, but it looks reasonable, and the result (slightly below 5.5 MeV) looks right.
 

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