Find the magnitude of the maximum magnetic force

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The problem involves calculating the magnitude of the maximum magnetic force experienced by electrons accelerated through a potential difference of 25 kV in a magnetic field of 0.26 T. The context is rooted in concepts of electromagnetism and kinetic energy.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between potential difference and kinetic energy, with some attempting to convert energy units from keV to Joules. Others explore the connection between potential energy and kinetic energy, questioning how to derive velocity from the given potential difference.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants offering insights into the relationships between energy, charge, and velocity. Some have attempted calculations but expressed uncertainty about their results and the correct application of formulas. There is no explicit consensus on the approach yet.

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Participants note confusion regarding the conversion of energy units and the definitions of eV and V. There are also mentions of potential typos in equations that may lead to misunderstandings.

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In a television set, electrons are accelerated from rest through a potential difference of 25 kV. The electrons then pass through a 0.26 T magnetic field that deflects them to the appropriate spot on the screen. Find the magnitude of the maximum magnetic force that an electron can experience.

I know to use F=qvBsin(theta) but the v is lacking. What do I do to find v?
 
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The answer lies in "electrons are accelerated from rest through a potential difference of 25 kV"

What is the relation btw potential difference and the variation in kinetic energy of a particle passing through it.
 
Or put another way, the 25keV is a measure of the electron's kinetic energy, all due to its velocity. Convert the keV units to Joules, look up the mass of the electron, and...
 
I know it lies within that statement, but I cannot find a relationship between the two.

I know P=IV, but I lack I. If that's even the right approach to begin with. I figure the energy in the potential difference (Volts) can be converted into a E=mA, but can the E in that equation be expressed in Volts?
 
ok, I see where you're coming from and I converted it into Joules.

I used 1eV=1.6e-19 joules

x 25kV = 4e-15J

My answer was wrong however, and I believe it is because I converted it with eV instead of V. eV = how many V again?
 
[tex]q\Delta V = \Delta U[/tex]

Where U is the potential energy. And how are variations of potential energy related to variations of kinetic energy?
 
This is what I've tried

E=mA = 1.6x10^-19 (25000)

A = E/A = (1.6x10^-19)(25000) / 9.11x10^-31 = 4.39 x 10^15

F = (1.6 x 10^-19) (.26T) (sin 89.9) (4.39 x 10 ^15)

I've also tried without the q because maybe it already was alrady included with the eV.
I've also tried with different thetas, assuming 90* is the biggest sign, but not plausible (although tried), and 89.9* since maybe its plausible and also 45*.

Nothing has been right. ?
 
StudentofPhysics said:
My answer was wrong however, and I believe it is because I converted it with eV instead of V. eV = how many V again?

This question is meaningless. eV is a measure of energy, V is a measure of energy / culoumb.

It's confusing at first, but you get used to it
 
[tex]KE = \frac{1}{2} m v^2[/tex] in the mks system of units, [tex][J] = [kg] [m^2 / s^2][/tex]
 
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StudentofPhysics said:
In a television set, electrons are accelerated from rest through a potential difference of 25 kV. The electrons then pass through a 0.26 T magnetic field that deflects them to the appropriate spot on the screen. Find the magnitude of the maximum magnetic force that an electron can experience.

I know to use F=qvBsin(theta) but the v is lacking. What do I do to find v?

From rest to pd of 25kV, the electrons move with kinetic energy equal to 0.5ev^2 = 25ekV. That gives you the v.
 
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thiotimoline said:
From rest to pd of 25kV, the electrons move with kinetic energy equal to 0.5ev^2 = 25ekV. That gives you the v.
Say what? Why are you taking 0.5eV and squaring it? and what's 25ekV?


EDIT -- Oh, I see what you were trying to type. You should fix the typos on both sides of that equation so it doesn't confuse the OP.
 

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