Find the mass of the merry go round: conservation of angular momentum?

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The problem involves a disk-shaped merry-go-round being acted upon by a tangential force, with the goal of determining its mass using principles of angular momentum and torque. The scenario includes initial conditions of rest and specific parameters such as force, radius, and angular speed.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of torque and the moment of inertia, with one participant noting the need to convert angular speed from revolutions per second to radians per second. Questions arise regarding the assumptions made about the placement of the child exerting the force and how this affects the calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the equations involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct application of angular velocity and the moment of inertia, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach to find the mass.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement and are questioning the assumptions made in their calculations, particularly regarding the placement of the force application and the resulting moment of inertia.

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Homework Statement


A child exerts a tangential 41.6 N force on the rim of a disk-shaped merry-go-round with a radius of 2.40 m.
If the merry-go-round starts at rest and acquires an angular speed of 0.0850 rev/s in 3.50 s, what is its mass?

Homework Equations


torque = r * F
(I + mr^2) ω / t = torque
I of a solid disk = 1/2 mr^2

The Attempt at a Solution


I found the tangential torque to be 99.84 N/m, and set the momentum equation to it, plugging in the moment of inertia. I got 713.7, and the answer is 227 kg. What am I doing wrong?
 
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Two things:
i) Note that the angular speed is given in revolutions/second, not rad/s.

ii) In your second equation, what are you assuming about the placement of the child? Does this assumption make sense?
 
Once I convert the angular velocity, I can get the correct answer if I multiply it by 2:
2 * [(torque * t) / (angular velocity)] = m*r^2
Why does it work this way and not the other way?
 
The only moment of inertia in question here is just that of the merry go round (i.e 1/2mr^2) with m as the mass of the merry go ground. I think the way you were doing it, you put an extra object of mass m on the rim (so you had an extra +mr^2 term)!
 

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