Find the moment of inertia of a solid sphere.

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The discussion revolves around finding the moment of inertia of a solid sphere about a tangential axis, starting from the integral definition of moment of inertia.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to derive the moment of inertia using the integral formula and expresses confusion regarding the coefficient in their final result.
  • Some participants question the interpretation of the variable "r" in the integral, suggesting it should represent the distance from the mass element to the axis of rotation rather than the origin.
  • Others suggest that the approach of using a whole shell may not be appropriate due to varying distances of mass elements from the axis of rotation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the interpretation of variables and the setup of the problem. There is no explicit consensus, but guidance has been offered regarding the correct interpretation of the integral and the axis of rotation.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem constraints may not allow the use of the parallel axis theorem, which could affect the approach taken to solve the problem.

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Homework Statement



Beginning with Icm = Integral of r^2 dm from r1 to r2, find the moment of inertia of a solid sphere about any tangential axis.



Homework Equations



Icm = Integral of r^2 dm

The Attempt at a Solution



I set up the infinitesimally mass of an infinitesimally thin "shell" of the sphere:

dm = 4ρπr2 dr

And then solved for the moment of inertia:

I = ∫r2dm

= ∫r2(4ρπr2 dr)

= 4ρπ∫r4 dr

= (4/5)ρπr5

And solving for ρ we get the following:

ρ = M/((4/3)πr3).

Substituting that into the previously solved equation for I, I get the following:

I = (3/5)Mr3.

What am I doing wrong? I know the formula involves a coefficient of 2/5, not 3/5, but I can't find my problem.

Thank you in advance!
 
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I saw that, the only issue is I am supposed to start with the above formula. Icm = Integral of r^2 dm
 
Squizzel said:
I saw that, the only issue is I am supposed to start with the above formula. Icm = Integral of r^2 dm

I believe your problem is that you are misinterpreting the meaning of "r" in Icm = Integral of r^2 dm. It does not represent the distance from the mass element dm to the origin of your coordinate system. Rather it represents the perpendicular distance from dm to the axis of rotation. So, if the axis of rotation is the z-axis, then r is the distance from dm to the z-axis.

That's why it's preferable to write r_{\bot} as in the link that azizlwl gave.

You can't find Icm of the sphere by doing a whole shell at a time, because different mass elements of the shell are at different distances from the axis of rotation.
 
Squizzel said:

Homework Statement



Beginning with Icm = Integral of r^2 dm from r1 to r2, find the moment of inertia of a solid sphere about any tangential axis.

Homework Equations



Icm = Integral of r^2 dm

The Attempt at a Solution



I set up the infinitesimally mass of an infinitesimally thin "shell" of the sphere:

dm = 4ρπr2 dr

And then solved for the moment of inertia:

I = ∫r2dm

= ∫r2(4ρπr2 dr)

= 4ρπ∫r4 dr

= (4/5)ρπr5

And solving for ρ we get the following:

ρ = M/((4/3)πr3).

Substituting that into the previously solved equation for I, I get the following:

I = (3/5)Mr3.

What am I doing wrong? I know the formula involves a coefficient of 2/5, not 3/5, but I can't find my problem.

Thank you in advance!
The problem asks you to "find the moment of inertia of a solid sphere about any tangential axis."

I assume that you are not allowed to use the parallel axis theorem for this.
 

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