Find the power of a boat that accelerated

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The discussion revolves around calculating the power required for a ship to accelerate over a specified distance. The problem involves concepts from dynamics and energy, specifically focusing on force, work, and power in the context of motion.

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  • Participants explore different methods to calculate power, including using work done over time and average velocity. Questions arise regarding the correct formula for average velocity and its implications on power calculations.

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A 3.5x107 kg ship is traveling at 7 m/s. The ship is accelerated forward with a F of 4.5 x 105 N over a distance of 2 km.

What is the final speed? Vf = 10 m/s

How long does it take the ship to traverse the 2 km? T = 233.33 seconds

What is the average power which the engines had to produce to accelerate the ship in part 1? I need help on this please.

You can do P = W/t = (4.5x105 x 2000) / 233.333

P = 3.9 x 106 watts which is the right answer.

However, how come you can't do P = (F)(avg velocity)

P = 4.5x105 * (3/2) = 675000 watts??
 
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Hi,

Where'd you get your avg velocity from?

You can use this formula, and in fact the two methods are equivalent, since:

P = W/t = Fd/t = F(d/t) = Fvavg

vavg = d/t = 2000 m / 233.33 s = 8.57 m/s

4.5e5 N * 8.57 m/s = 3.9e6 Nm/s (= J/s = W)
 
Ah I see. It looks like you were confused in your formula for avg. velocity. It's (vf + vi)/2 NOT (vf - vi)/2.

(10 m/s + 7 m/s)/2 = 17/2 m/s = 8.5 m/s
 
cepheid said:
Ah I see. It looks like you were confused in your formula for avg. velocity. It's (vf + vi)/2 NOT (vf - vi)/2.

(10 m/s + 7 m/s)/2 = 17/2 m/s = 8.5 m/s


Oh my goodness! Your eyes are so good! I have been using energy formulas all day that do Xf-Xi all day! Such a silly mistake thank you so much! it is so late and my brain if frazzled :)
 

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