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The equation z(z+i)(z+3i) = 2002i has roots expressed as a complex number a+bi, where a and b are positive. The polynomial simplifies to z^3 + 4iz^2 - 3z - 2002i, leading to potential roots including z = -14i, which is invalid since b must be positive. The valid roots are found by solving z^2 - 10iz - 143 = 0, yielding z = √118 + 5i. This gives a = √118, b = 5, and results in a^2 - b^2 = 93. The discussion highlights the importance of ensuring b remains positive while solving the equation.
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$a+bi$ is a root of :$z(z+i)(z+3i)=2002i$
here :$a,b>0$ and $i=\sqrt {-1}$
please find :$a^2-b^2=?$
 
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Albert said:
$a+bi$ is a root of :$z(z+i)(z+3i)=2002i$
here :$a,b>0$ and $i=\sqrt {-1}$
please find :$a^2-b^2=?$
[sp]$$0 = z(z+i)(z+3i) - 2002i = z^3 + 4iz^2 - 3z - 2002i = (z+14i)(z^2 - 10iz - 143).$$ One solution is $z = a+bi = -14i.$ But in that case, $b = -14 <0$ and we want a solution with $b>0$. So we must look for one of the solutions of $z^2 - 10iz - 143 = 0.$ These are $z = 5i \pm\sqrt{118}$, and the required solution is $z = \sqrt{118} + 5i$. So $a = \sqrt{118}$, $b = 5$, and $a^2-b^2 = 118 - 25 = 93.$[/sp]
 
Opalg said:
[sp]$$0 = z(z+i)(z+3i) - 2002i = z^3 + 4iz^2 - 3z - 2002i = (z+14i)(z^2 - 10iz - 143).$$ One solution is $z = a+bi = -14i.$ But in that case, $b = -14 <0$ and we want a solution with $b>0$. So we must look for one of the solutions of $z^2 - 10iz - 143 = 0.$ These are $z = 5i \pm\sqrt{118}$, and the required solution is $z = \sqrt{118} + 5i$. So $a = \sqrt{118}$, $b = 5$, and $a^2-b^2 = 118 - 25 = 93.$[/sp]
very good slution !
 
As an addendum, an efficient way to notice the $z = -14i$ root is to notice that $2002 = 11 \cdot 13 \cdot 14$.
 
Bacterius said:
As an addendum, an efficient way to notice the $z = -14i$ root is to notice that $2002 = 11 \cdot 13 \cdot 14$.
[sp]What I actually did was to notice that if you put $z=iw$ then the equation $z(z+i)(z+3i) - 2002i = 0$ becomes $w(w+1)(w+3) + 2002 = 0$, with all the coefficients real. You can then easily find the solution $w = -14$ by factorising $2002 = 11 \cdot 13 \cdot 14$.[/sp]
 
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