Find the square root of a surd term

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The discussion revolves around finding the square root of the expression a + b + √(2ab + b²), which involves surd terms. Participants are exploring different methods and interpretations related to this algebraic expression.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to express the square root in terms of two variables, x and y, and seeks alternative methods. Some participants suggest a different representation involving a factor of 2 in front of the square root. Others question the approach of finding the product of the square roots instead of simply determining the square root itself.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing alternative representations and clarifying their interpretations of the problem. There is acknowledgment of differing views on how to approach the square root, and some participants are refining their understanding based on feedback.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the original problem statement, which specifically asks for the square root rather than the product of square roots. This has led to some confusion and clarification among the contributors.

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Homework Statement
find the square root of ## a+b+√(2ab +b^2)##
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find the square root of ## a+b+√(2ab +b^2)##

let ##√[a+b+√(2ab +b^2)]= ±(√x +√y)##
then, ##a+b+√(2ab +b^2)= x+y+ 2√(xy)##
where ##a+b=x+y##.......1
##(b+a)^2-a^2=4xy## .....2
from 2,
##a^2=(b+a)^2-4xy##
##a=√[x+y)^2-4xy]##
##a=√[x^2-2xy+y^2]##
##a=x-y##
therefore,
##b=x+y-x+y##
##b=2y##
##y=\frac {b}{2}##
→##x=a+\frac {b}{2}##
this is my original working...i am looking for any alternative method?
 
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After your good effort we can show it in "2 in front of square root" way as
a+b+2\sqrt{(a+\frac{b}{2})\frac{b}{2}}
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
After your good effort we can show it in "2 in front of square root" way as
a+b+2\sqrt{(a+\frac{b}{2})\frac{b}{2}}

why are you going ahead to find the products of the square root? the question simply asked to find the square root and not product of the square root. The square root will be equal to
##±(√x +√y)= ±(√[(a+\frac {b}{2}]##+##√\frac {b}{2}##

looking at your expression, it gives me ## (√x +√y)(√x +√y)= x+y+2√(xy)##
which is not what we are looking for...
 
ok i see what you meant...it was in reference to the equation 2...bingo
 
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This is a solution from a colleague...
 

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