Find the sum of the vectors u and v if theta is the angle between them

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The discussion revolves around finding the sum of two vectors, u and v, given their magnitudes and the angle between them. The original poster expresses confusion regarding the application of the cosine law in this context, particularly in relation to the provided answer in their textbook.

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  • Participants discuss various methods for determining the resultant vector, including graphical representation and component resolution. The original poster questions the correctness of their approach and the textbook's answer, considering the implications of the angle being obtuse.

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There is an ongoing exploration of different methods to solve the problem, with some participants suggesting graphical methods and component analysis. The original poster is seeking clarification on their reasoning and the validity of the textbook's solution, indicating a lack of consensus on the correct approach.

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The original poster notes potential confusion arising from the angle measurements and the implications of using the cosine law with an obtuse angle. There is also mention of previous problems with different angle configurations, which may influence their understanding of the current problem.

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:eek: After spending about an hour on this problem, I've become completely convinced that my math book is wrong in the answer it provides. Am I wrong or right? This is from the Harcourt Geometry and Discrete Mathematics Text.

Question:
Find the sum of the vectors u and v if theta is the angle between them.

Given:
u=3 (magnitude)
v=10 (magnitude)
theta=115 degrees

Obviously, the angles in a parallelogram equal to 360. This means the other vertexs are 65 degrees. Then I would use the cosine law to solve for the sum of the vectors. (I wish I could draw a diagram but I can't). So...

u+v^2=(10)^2+(3)^2-2(10)(3)Cos 65 degrees
therefore, u+v=9.1 (approx)

However, the back of the book says u+v=11.6

I've found that to get 11.6, instead of putting Cos 65, I'd have to put Cos 115 but that would not follow according to the laws. Another way is instead of finding the sum, I'd actually be finding the DIFFERENCE between the vectors.

Then I thought maybe I'm doing something wrong... because in the previous question, the angle between the vectors was 70 degrees. The angle between the vectors was not REALLY 70, instead it was divided into two angles and 70 degrees was one of them. Thus, an exterior angle from 70 which is 110 is given... so this proves the vertex opposite from it would be 70. Use Cosine law, I got the right answer.

However, this is an obtuse angle. There is obviously a different method but maybe I don't know it.

I'm confused

Any ideas within the next hour or two would be appreciated...
 
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Well, one method is to make a scaled drawing and determine the resultant graphically. The other is to work with components.Consider the u vector along the x-axis. You would then resolve v vector into it's x-and y components. Add up the x and y components to get the components of the resultant. It's magnitude can determined by applying pythagoras' theorem to the components. The direction of the resultant is determined with the tangent of it's (the resultant's) components.
 
If the angle between the vetors is greater than 90 degrees, then the length of their sum will be smaller than the length of either one. Looks to me like the book's answer is the difference of the two vectors.
 

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