Find the Time Constant of an RC Circuit

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The problem involves finding the time constant of an RC circuit with two capacitors in series, given their capacitance values and a resistor. The original poster is attempting to understand how to apply the time constant formula in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the equivalent capacitance of the capacitors and how it relates to the time constant. Questions arise regarding the definitions of current (I and Io) and their roles in the equations. There is also confusion about the voltage across the capacitor versus the power source.

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Some participants have provided guidance on understanding the current definitions and the relationship between charge and voltage in capacitors. Multiple interpretations of the equations and their applicability are being explored, with no explicit consensus reached.

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Participants express uncertainty about the correct application of formulas and the definitions of variables involved, indicating a need for clarification on the relationships within the circuit.

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Homework Statement


Two capacitors (c1 = 11 and c2 = 15 μF) are charged in series by a 11 V battery. Find the time constant of the charging circuit. (r = 4 Ω).


Homework Equations


V=E(1-e^(-t/T)) Where T=Tau=RC, E is the Voltage of the power source, and V is the voltage of the capacitor.



The Attempt at a Solution


I am fairly certain that Tau is the time constant in this case, so I solved for Tau, but I don't know what to plug in for the voltage of the capacitor (V). Am I even headed in the right direction with this?
 

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You have two capacitors in series with a resistor. What is the equivalent capacitance of the two capacitors?

V represents the sum of the voltages across C1 & C2. Instead of using V=E(1‒e(‒ t/τ)), use I = (I0)e(‒ t/τ).
 
I got an equivalent capacitance of 6.3462e-6F. I guess I am not understanding where the currents in the equation come into play. Would I use Q=CV? Where would that get me? Also, I found an equation for the circuit to be V-(R1*I)-(Q/C)=0. What is the difference between I and Io? Isn't there only on current flowing through the circuit? Thanks for helping me out... I am a little lost.
 
I is the current at time t
Io is the max current
 
cupid.callin said:
I is the current at time t
Io is the max current

Ahh okay. But how am I supposed to know what I and Io are?
 
I will be changing with time ... Io is max current ... when do you think that current will be maximum

but i think that time constant should be just RC (c is net capacitance) ... does it give correct answer?
 
and eqn of I given by sammy is wrong and also a bit unusable ...

you know how to define q in capacitor at any time ... just differentiate it with dt
 
cupid.callin said:
and eqn of I given by sammy is wrong and also a bit unusable ...

you know how to define q in capacitor at any time ... just differentiate it with dt

haha... ok. I'm sorry, I'm still lost... I'll show you what I have done and maybe you can guide me from there.

I found a equivalent capacitance and that was 6.3462e-6F. I know that Q=CV=(6.3462e-6F)(11)=6.98077e-5 which is the max charge on the capacitor. I know that I=V/R=(11V)/(4ohm)=2.75A. I have an equation for an RC circuit that is charging: V=E(1-e^(-t/T)) Where T=Tau=RC, E is the Voltage of the power source, and V is the voltage of the capacitor. Is the voltage of the capacitor different from the voltage of the power source, because If they were the same then I would get 0=e^(-t/T) and you can't take the ln of 0. Am I doing something right?
 
I got it... I went way more into this problem than I should have. It just ended up being T=RC.

Thanks for you help

Take Care
 
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tomrja said:
I got it... I went way more into this problem than I should have. It just ended up being T=RC.

Thanks for you help

Take Care

HA HA HA ...

I was right ...
 

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