Find the value of ##\sqrt[5]{0.00000165}##

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the fifth root of a small number, specifically ##\sqrt[5]{0.00000165}##, and the use of logarithms in this context. Participants are exploring the mathematical reasoning and interpretations involved in the problem.

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the manipulation of logarithmic expressions and the reasoning behind rewriting values. Questions arise regarding the calculation of logarithms and the interpretation of the notation used.

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Homework Statement
Find the value of ##\sqrt[5]{0.00000165}## given ##\log165=2.2174839## and ##\log697424=5.8434968##
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##\log x=\log\sqrt[5]{0.00000165}##

##\Rightarrow \log x =\dfrac{1}{5}\log0.00000165=\dfrac{1}{5}(\overline{6}.2174839##

##\Rightarrow \dfrac{1}{5}(\overline{10}+4.2174839) = \overline{2}.8434968##

This is the solution I'm given. I don't understand the last line. First, why is ##\overline{6}## rewritten into ##\overline{10}## and ##4.2174839##? Second, I am guessing ##\dfrac{1}{5}\cdot \overline{10}## equals ##\overline{2}##. But how do you calculate ##\dfrac{1}{5}\cdot 4.2174839## without resorting to the calculator? This is why I don't get why ##\overline{6}## was rewritten like this because there is still a difficult calculation. Thanks!
 
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RChristenk said:
t how do you calculate ##\dfrac{1}{5}\cdot 4.2174839## without resorting to the calculator?
You divide by 10 (easy enough :smile:) and multiply the result by 2 (not that complicated :wink:)

You have ##1.65 \times 10^{-6} = 16500 \times 10^{-10}##
log base 10 is ##4.217 - 10##
##\sqrt[5] { }## has log ##x-2## with ##x = 4.217/5## between 0 and 1.
hence the ##\overline{2}.8434968##
and with ##\log 697424=5.8434968## you shift 7 places to get ##0.0697424##

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I didn't know that in 2024 the logarithm of a number between 0 and 1 was still reported with a bar above the integer part. I thought that this format belonged to my youth, more than 50 years ago.
 
My youth is equally far back and I never encountered this bar ...
 
Back then, I learnt (the hard way) how to use the bar. What's the purpose of that relic?
 
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