Find the value of the emf in a battery

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The discussion revolves around understanding the behavior of a real battery modeled as an emf in series with an internal resistance. The problem involves calculating the potential difference across the battery terminals when connected to an external resistor, as well as determining the fraction of power dissipated by the internal resistance.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the application of Ohm's law (V = IR) to analyze the circuit. There are attempts to calculate current and voltage across components, with some participants questioning the assumptions made regarding total resistance and current flow.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing guidance on how to approach the problem. There are multiple interpretations being explored regarding the calculations and circuit analysis, particularly concerning the voltage across the external resistor and the internal resistance of the battery.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a typical battery model and are discussing the implications of internal resistance on the overall circuit behavior. There is a focus on ensuring that the calculations align with the physical setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement



A real battery is not just an emf. We can model a real 1.5 battery as a 1.5 emf in series with a resistor known as the "internal resistance", as shown in the figure (Intro 1 figure) . A typical battery has 1.0 Ohm internal resistance due to imperfections that limit current through the battery. When there's no current through the battery, and thus no voltage drop across the internal resistance, the potential difference between its terminals is 1.5 V, the value of the emf. Suppose the terminals of this battery are connected to a 3.0 Ohm resistor.
a) What is the potential difference between the terminals of the battery?

b) What fraction of the battery's power is dissipated by the internal resistance?

Homework Equations



V = IR

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Yes you do need V=IR but show your attempt to use it.
 


V = IR
I = V/R = 1.5 V/1 Ohm = 1.5 A

so for 3 Ohm resistor voltage difference, V = IR = 1.5 A*3 Ohm = 4.5 V

Right?
 


I=V/R but when the resistor is connected the total resistance=4 ohms.The same current flows through The internal resistance of the battery and the 3 ohm resistor.From this you should be able to work out part a which can be looked at in two ways.
1.The voltage across the 3 ohm resistor
2.The emf minus the voltage dropped across the internal resistance
Sketch the circuit,mark in the voltages and their polarities and you should see why the two answers are the same.
Try it out and show what you get.
 


so the resistance is 4 ohm and the voltage is 1.5 V
so I = V/R = 1.5/40 = 0.375 A
right?
 


Right, now you should be able to finish it off.
 

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