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In triangle PQR, points A, B, and C are defined with A as the midpoint of QR, and the ratio RB to BP is 3:1. The areas of triangles RAB, AQC, and PCB are denoted as y, x, and z respectively, with the relationship x² = yz established. The discussion revolves around finding the ratio m/n, where PC/CQ = m/n. Various methods to solve the problem are appreciated, showcasing the collaborative effort in mathematical problem-solving. The final goal is to determine the specific value of the ratio m/n.
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In triangle $PQR$, the points $A,\,B,\,C$ lie on the line segments $QR$, $RP$ and $PQ$ respectively, such that $A$ is the midpoint of $QR$, $RB=3BP$ and $\dfrac{PC}{CQ}=\dfrac{m}{n}$. If $y$ is the area of triangle $RAB$, $x$ is the area of triangle $AQC$ and $z$ is the area of triangle $PCB$, and $x^2=yz$, find the value of $\dfrac{m}{n}$.
 
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Re: Find the value of the ratio of p/q

anemone said:
In triangle $PQR$, the points $A,\,B,\,C$ lie on the line segments $QR$, $RP$ and $PQ$ respectively, such that $A$ is the midpoint of $QR$, $RB=3BP$ and $\dfrac{PC}{CQ}=\dfrac{m}{n}$. If $y$ is the area of triangle $RAB$, $x$ is the area of triangle $AQC$ and $z$ is the area of triangle $PCB$, and $x^2=yz$, find the value of $\dfrac{m}{n}$.

Consider the figure below.
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Choose $Q$ as the origin and the positions of $P$ and $R$ are denoted by vectors $\vec{p}$ and $\vec{r}$.

Also, let $m/n=\lambda$.

Clearly,
$$\vec{QC}=\frac{1}{\lambda+1}\vec{p}$$
$$\vec{QA}=\frac{\vec{r}}{2}$$
$$\vec{QB}=\frac{\vec{r}+3\vec{p}}{4}$$

Next, I find the areas in terms of $\vec{r}$ and $\vec{p}$,
$$x=\frac{1}{2}\left| \vec{QA}\times \vec{QC}\right|=\frac{1}{4(\lambda+1)}\left|\vec{r}\times \vec{p}\right|$$
$$y=\frac{1}{2}\left|\vec{AR}\times \vec{AB}\right|=\frac{1}{2}\left|\vec{AR}\times \left(\vec{QB}-\vec{QA}\right)\right|=\frac{1}{2}\left|\frac{\vec{r}}{2}\times \left(\frac{\vec{r}+3\vec{p}}{4}-\frac{\vec{r}}{2}\right)\right|=\frac{3}{16}\left|\vec{r}\times \vec{p}\right|$$
$$z=\frac{1}{2}\left|\vec{CP}\times \vec{CB}\right|=\frac{1}{2}\left| \frac{\lambda}{\lambda+1}\vec{p}\times \left(\vec{QB}-\vec{QC}\right)\right|=\frac{\lambda}{8(\lambda+1)}\left|\vec{r}\times \vec{p}\right|$$
As per the question,
$$x^2=yz \Rightarrow \frac{1}{16(\lambda+1)^2}=\frac{3}{16}\cdot \frac{\lambda}{8(\lambda+1)}\Rightarrow 3\lambda^2+3\lambda-8=0$$
$$\Rightarrow \boxed{\lambda=\dfrac{1}{6}\left(\sqrt{105}-3\right)}$$
(neglecting the negative root)
 

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My suggested solution:
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\[PQ = m+n,\: \: QR = 2p \: \: and \: \: RP=4q\\\\ x = \frac{1}{2}\cdot n\cdot p\cdot sin(Q)\\\\ y = \frac{3}{2}\cdot q\cdot p\cdot sin(R)\\\\ z = \frac{1}{2}\cdot q\cdot m\cdot sin(P)\]
\[x^2 = yz \Rightarrow n^2\cdot p^2\cdot sin^2(Q)=3\cdot q^2\cdot p\cdot m\cdot sin(R)\cdot sin(P)\;\;\;\;(1).\]

The rule of sines:

\[\frac{2p}{sin(P)}=\frac{4q}{sin(Q)}=\frac{m+n}{sin(R)}\\\\ \Rightarrow p^2 = 4\cdot q^2\cdot \frac{sin^2(P)}{sin^2(Q)} \: \: \: \: and\: \:\: \: p = \frac{1}{2}(m+n) \frac{sin(P)}{sin(R)}\]

Insertion into $(1)$ yields:

\[n^2\cdot p^2 \cdot sin^2(Q) = 4\cdot n^2\cdot q^2\cdot \frac{sin^2(P)}{sin^2(Q)}\cdot sin^2(Q)=3\cdot q^2\cdot p\cdot m\cdot sin(R)\cdot sin(P)\\\\ \Rightarrow 4\cdot n^2\cdot sin(P)=3\cdot p\cdot m \cdot sin(R) =\frac{3}{2}\cdot m\cdot (m+n)\cdot \frac{sin(P)}{sin(R)}\cdot sin(R) \\\\ \Rightarrow \left ( \frac{m}{n} \right )^2+\frac{m}{n}-\frac{8}{3}=0 \Rightarrow \frac{m}{n}=\frac{1}{2}\left ( \sqrt{\frac{35}{3}}-1 \right )\approx 1.208\]
 

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Thanks to both of you for participating in this problem!:)

It's always great to see there are different methods to tackle a problem, thank you again for your willingness to participate and typing your solution so well in $\LaTeX$ for me and the readers! (Clapping)
 
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