Find the vector, parametric, symmetric equations of a line

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The discussion revolves around finding the vector, parametric, and symmetric equations of a line that intersects two given lines (L1 and L2) at right angles. The subject area involves vector calculus and geometry in three-dimensional space.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss different methods for determining the direction vector and points of intersection for the line (L3) that intersects L1 and L2. There is a comparison of two approaches to solving for the scalar multiples and the resulting values of parameters s, t, and n. Questions arise regarding the equivalence of the two methods and the implications of different parameter values.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, questioning the validity of different approaches and exploring the relationships between the derived equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the rearrangement of equations, but no consensus has been reached on the preferred method or its implications.

Contextual Notes

There are discussions about the accuracy of the derived values and the potential impact of different parameter choices on the results. Participants are also considering the implications of the commutative property of subtraction in their equations.

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Homework Statement



Find the vector, parametric and symmetric equations of a line that intersect both line 1 and line 2 at 90°.


L1:
x = 4 + 2t
y = 8 + 3t
z = -1 − 4t

L2:
x = 7 - 6t
y = 2+ t
z = -1 + 2t

Homework Equations



vector, parametric, symmetric equations of line in R3 and cross product equation.

The Attempt at a Solution



I obtained the direction vector for the line (L3) that intersects L1 and L2. It is [1,2,2].


And I let the point of intersection between L3 and L1 be:
[x1,y1,z1]=[4,8-1]+t[2,3,-4], tεℝ

And let the point of intersection between L3 and L2 be:
[x2,y2,z2] = [7,2,-1]+s[-6,1,2], sεℝ

And now to find the scalar multiple of direction vector of the L3 that intersects point 1 and point 2.
So, [x1,y1,z1]+n[1,2,2]=[x2, y2, z2], nεℝ

And when I solve I obtain s=-1, n=-1,..
But then I saw a different approach in which the individual used,

[x1,y1,z1]-[x2, y2, z2]=n[1,2,2], nεℝ

And this yields, s=1, n=1, t=-1.

So my question is which method is accurate/correct, or does it not really matter a great deal?
 
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NATURE.M said:

Homework Statement



Find the vector, parametric and symmetric equations of a line that intersect both line 1 and line 2 at 90°.

L1:
x = 4 + 2t
y = 8 + 3t
z = -1 − 4t

L2:
x = 7 - 6t
y = 2+ t
z = -1 + 2t

Homework Equations



vector, parametric, symmetric equations of line in R3 and cross product equation.

The Attempt at a Solution



I obtained the direction vector for the line (L3) that intersects L1 and L2. It is [1,2,2].


And I let the point of intersection between L3 and L1 be:
[x1,y1,z1]=[4,8-1]+t[2,3,-4], tεℝ

And let the point of intersection between L3 and L2 be:
[x2,y2,z2] = [7,2,-1]+s[-6,1,2], sεℝ

And now to find the scalar multiple of direction vector of the L3 that intersects point 1 and point 2.
So, [x1,y1,z1]+n[1,2,2]=[x2, y2, z2], nεℝ

And when I solve I obtain s=-1, n=-1,..
But then I saw a different approach in which the individual used,

[x1,y1,z1]-[x2, y2, z2]=n[1,2,2], nεℝ

And this yields, s=1, n=1, t=-1.

So my question is which method is accurate/correct, or does it not really matter a great deal?
Take your equation,  [x1,y1,z1] + n[1,2,2] = [x2, y2, z2]  and rearrange it to

[STRIKE][x1,y1,z1] - n[x2, y2, z2] = -n[1,2,2] .[/STRIKE]

[x1,y1,z1] - [x2, y2, z2] = -n[1,2,2] .

This is equivalent to the other individual's result !

Edited post to fix typo.
 
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But there not equivalent. If you rearrange, [x1,y1,z1]+n[1,2,2]=[x2, y2, z2]
We obtain:[x1,y1,z1]-[x2, y2, z2]=-n[1,2,2] or [x2, y2, z2]-[x1,y1,z1]=n[1,2,2], which are not equivalent to [x1,y1,z1]-[x2, y2, z2]=n[1,2,2]---subtraction is not commutative.
And plus, if they were equivalent how would the s,t and n values obtained vary??
So once again does it not matter which method you use, or is there something I'm missing?
 
NATURE.M said:
But there not equivalent. If you rearrange, [x1,y1,z1]+n[1,2,2]=[x2, y2, z2]
We obtain:[x1,y1,z1]-[x2, y2, z2]=-n[1,2,2] or [x2, y2, z2]-[x1,y1,z1]=n[1,2,2], which are not equivalent to [x1,y1,z1]-[x2, y2, z2]=n[1,2,2]---subtraction is not commutative.
And plus, if they were equivalent how would the s,t and n values obtained vary??
So once again does it not matter which method you use, or is there something I'm missing?
Your n is equal to -n of your 'friend' , but that just makes the equations exactly equivalent, if you have the same t as he/she.
 
Okay I see what your saying. So then it really doesn't matter which equation I use.
Thanks.
 
One other question, when you substitute the s=-1 value into the equation
[x2,y2,z2] = [7,2,-1]+s[-6,1,2] the answer varies when you input the other s value.
But would it still be right??
 

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