Find the Y-Axis in a Coordinate System with Given X and Z-Axis Values

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The discussion revolves around determining the Y-Axis values in a spherical coordinate system given specific X and Z-Axis values. Participants clarify the definitions of theta and phi, noting that different conventions exist for measuring these angles. The common conventions are explained, with theta typically representing the angle from the x-axis in the x-y plane, and phi measured from the x-y plane to the z-axis. There's a suggestion to use unit vectors along the X and Z axes to compute the Y-Axis vector through the cross-product method. The conversation emphasizes the importance of specifying the coordinate system convention being used.
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MENTOR note: moved from General Math hence no template

What would be the Y-Axis if:

X-Axis: theta=266.4 phi=-28.94
Z-Axis: theta=192.85 phi=27.13

where:
theta=atan(Y/X)
phi=asin(Z/R)

My thinking, theta is +90 from X-Axis and phi is -90 from the Z-Axis.
Is the Y-Axis theta=356.4 phi=-62.87?
 
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Philosophaie said:
MENTOR note: moved from General Math hence no template

What would be the Y-Axis if:

X-Axis: theta=266.4 phi=-28.94
Z-Axis: theta=192.85 phi=27.13

where:
theta=atan(Y/X)
phi=asin(Z/R)

My thinking, theta is +90 from X-Axis and phi is -90 from the Z-Axis.
Is the Y-Axis theta=356.4 phi=-62.87?

Are these supposed to be angles in a spherical coordinate system? If so, please specify precisely which convention you are using. There are two common, but different conventions: (1) ##\theta = ## angle between the ##z##-axis and the vector ##(x,y,z)##, ##\phi = ## angle from the positive ##x##-axis, with counterclockwise angles being positive (so ##\phi## = longitude, measured west to east and ##\theta## = latitude, measured down from the North pole); and (2) the roles of ##\theta## and ##\phi## are swapped from the previous use. Convention (1) is most common in Physics, while (2) is used a lot (but not universally) in Math.
 
I thought:

theta=atan(Y/X)
phi=asin(Z/R)

explained it.

In spherical coordinates:
theta is measured on the x-y plane from the x-axis.
phi is measured upward from the x-y plane to the z-axis.
 
Philosophaie said:
I thought:

theta=atan(Y/X)
phi=asin(Z/R)

explained it.

In spherical coordinates:
theta is measured on the x-y plane from the x-axis.
phi is measured upward from the x-y plane to the z-axis.

The usual convention for a ##\phi## like yours would be ##\phi = \arccos(z/r)##, so ##\phi## would be latitude as measured down from the north pole; see, eg., the second figure in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_coordinate_system or the diagram in http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SphericalCoordinates.html or http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcIII/SphericalCoords.aspx .

In any case, if you can determine (in ##(x,y,z)##-space) the vectors ##\vec{e_X}## and ##\vec{e_Z}##, which are the unit vectors along the ##X## and ##Z## axes, you can take ##\vec{e_Y} = \vec{e_Z} \times \vec{e_X}## as the unit vector along the ##Y## axis. (Here, ##\times## denotes the vector cross-product.)
 
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