Find the Y-Axis in a Coordinate System with Given X and Z-Axis Values

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The discussion revolves around determining the Y-Axis values in a spherical coordinate system based on given X and Z-Axis values, specifically involving angles theta and phi.

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  • Participants explore the relationships between the angles theta and phi in spherical coordinates, questioning the conventions used for these angles. There is discussion about the definitions of theta and phi, particularly in relation to the coordinate system being applied.

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Participants have raised questions about the conventions of spherical coordinates and the implications for calculating the Y-Axis. Some have provided insights into the definitions of the angles, while others seek clarification on the conventions being used.

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There is mention of two common conventions for spherical coordinates, which may affect the interpretation of the angles provided. The discussion also references the need for clarity on the definitions of theta and phi in the context of the problem.

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MENTOR note: moved from General Math hence no template

What would be the Y-Axis if:

X-Axis: theta=266.4 phi=-28.94
Z-Axis: theta=192.85 phi=27.13

where:
theta=atan(Y/X)
phi=asin(Z/R)

My thinking, theta is +90 from X-Axis and phi is -90 from the Z-Axis.
Is the Y-Axis theta=356.4 phi=-62.87?
 
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Philosophaie said:
MENTOR note: moved from General Math hence no template

What would be the Y-Axis if:

X-Axis: theta=266.4 phi=-28.94
Z-Axis: theta=192.85 phi=27.13

where:
theta=atan(Y/X)
phi=asin(Z/R)

My thinking, theta is +90 from X-Axis and phi is -90 from the Z-Axis.
Is the Y-Axis theta=356.4 phi=-62.87?

Are these supposed to be angles in a spherical coordinate system? If so, please specify precisely which convention you are using. There are two common, but different conventions: (1) ##\theta = ## angle between the ##z##-axis and the vector ##(x,y,z)##, ##\phi = ## angle from the positive ##x##-axis, with counterclockwise angles being positive (so ##\phi## = longitude, measured west to east and ##\theta## = latitude, measured down from the North pole); and (2) the roles of ##\theta## and ##\phi## are swapped from the previous use. Convention (1) is most common in Physics, while (2) is used a lot (but not universally) in Math.
 
I thought:

theta=atan(Y/X)
phi=asin(Z/R)

explained it.

In spherical coordinates:
theta is measured on the x-y plane from the x-axis.
phi is measured upward from the x-y plane to the z-axis.
 
Philosophaie said:
I thought:

theta=atan(Y/X)
phi=asin(Z/R)

explained it.

In spherical coordinates:
theta is measured on the x-y plane from the x-axis.
phi is measured upward from the x-y plane to the z-axis.

The usual convention for a ##\phi## like yours would be ##\phi = \arccos(z/r)##, so ##\phi## would be latitude as measured down from the north pole; see, eg., the second figure in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_coordinate_system or the diagram in http://mathworld.wolfram.com/SphericalCoordinates.html or http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Classes/CalcIII/SphericalCoords.aspx .

In any case, if you can determine (in ##(x,y,z)##-space) the vectors ##\vec{e_X}## and ##\vec{e_Z}##, which are the unit vectors along the ##X## and ##Z## axes, you can take ##\vec{e_Y} = \vec{e_Z} \times \vec{e_X}## as the unit vector along the ##Y## axis. (Here, ##\times## denotes the vector cross-product.)
 
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