Find Value of k for Equation 4√x=2x+k: 1, 2, or 0 Solutions?

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The discussion revolves around finding the value of k in the equation 4√x = 2x + k such that the equation has one, two, or no solutions. The subject area includes algebra and quadratic equations.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss manipulating the original equation to derive a quadratic form and analyze the discriminant to determine the nature of the solutions based on the value of k. There are questions about the conditions for one, two, or no real solutions, and some participants express uncertainty about the implications of the discriminant.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts at solving the problem and clarifying the conditions under which different types of solutions occur. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of the discriminant, but there is no explicit consensus on the final values of k.

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Homework Statement



For the equation 4(times)sqrtx= 2x+k find a value such that k the equation has (a) one solution, (b) two solutions, (c) no solutions

Homework Equations



None

The Attempt at a Solution



From original equation, I got to:

sqrtx=(2x+k)/4

x=((2x+k)/4)^2

x= (4x^2+4xk+k^2)/16

simplified to: x= 1/4x^2 +1/4xk + 1/16k^2

Put it into quadratic formula and got the discriminant as: sqrt((1/4k)^2 -(4)(1/4)(k^2/16))

Dont know what to do next... Please help and show all work. Thank You
 
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darshanpatel said:

Homework Statement



For the equation 4(times)sqrt(x)= 2x+k find a value such that k the equation has (a) one solution, (b) two solutions, (c) no solutions


Homework Equations



None

The Attempt at a Solution



From original equation, I got to:

sqrt(x)=(2x+k)/4

x=((2x+k)/4)^2

x= (4x^2+4xk+k^2)/16

simplified to: x= 1/4x^2 +1/4xk + 1/16k^2

Put it into quadratic formula and got the discriminant as: sqrt((1/4k)^2 -(4)(1/4)(k^2/16))

Don't know what to do next... Please help and show all work. Thank You
You don't have the equation, x= 1/4x^2 +1/4xk + 1/16k^2, in the correct form to use the quadratic formula. There's an x on the left hand side.

More simply:
Square the original equation, [itex]\displaystyle 4\sqrt{x}= 2x+k[/itex]

giving [itex]\displaystyle 16x= 4x^2+4kx+k^2[/itex]

[itex]\displaystyle 4x^2+(4k-16)x+k^2=0[/itex]​

Use the discriminant, b2-4ac, to determine the value of k needed for 0, 1, or 2 real solutions.
 
Oh, thanks, So for 1 solution the discriminant would have to be 0, and for 2 solutions ≤0 and what would it have to be for 0 solutions? just ≥0? becuase can't u still get 2 imaginary solutions?
 
the final answer I got was: k=25/128 for one solution k>25/128 for no solutions and k<25/128 for 2 real solutions
 
darshanpatel said:
Oh, thanks, So for 1 solution the discriminant would have to be 0, and for 2 solutions ≤0 and what would it have to be for 0 solutions? just ≥0? becuase can't u still get 2 imaginary solutions?
No, not quite.
If b2-4ac = 0, there is 1 real solution.
If b2-4ac > 0, there are 2 real solutions.
If b2-4ac < 0, there are no real solutions (but there are 2 complex solutions).
 
oh yeah, sorry, I accidentally included the "equal to" but I fixed it in the final answer..
 
darshanpatel said:
Oh, thanks, So for 1 solution the discriminant would have to be 0, and for 2 solutions ≤0 and what would it have to be for 0 solutions? just ≥0? becuase can't u still get 2 imaginary solutions?
darshanpatel said:
oh yeah, sorry, I accidentally included the "equal to" but I fixed it in the final answer..
The "equal to" is not the only thing that's incorrect in the bolded part above.
 
oh, it wasnt bolded in previous part, but i see, >0 is 2 solutions, <0 no solutions( complex) = 0 one solution
 

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