Find Value of p for g(x) to Avoid Vertical Asymptote

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The discussion revolves around finding the value of p in the function g(x) = (3x + p) / (x^3 + 8) to avoid a vertical asymptote. Participants are exploring the implications of the function's denominator and how it relates to the presence of vertical asymptotes.

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  • Participants are questioning the conditions under which the function has a vertical asymptote, particularly focusing on the values of x that make the denominator zero. There is discussion about the relationship between the numerator and denominator at those points.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify the conditions for avoiding a vertical asymptote. Some have suggested specific values for p, while others are still exploring the implications of those values on the function's behavior.

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There is some confusion regarding the specific values of x that lead to vertical asymptotes, particularly around x = -2. Participants are also considering how the numerator must behave at these critical points to avoid asymptotic behavior.

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its asking me to find the value of p so that the function won't have a vertical asymptote:

g(x) = (3x + p) / (x^3 + 8)

however, I'm not sure how to figure that out...any help?
 
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For what value of x is the vertical asymptote? What value should the numerator take there to get rid of it?
 
Do you understand what a " vertical asymptote" IS and why a graph of this function might have one? Answering this will involve factoring the denominator.
 
after i factor the denominator though...where do i go from there?
 
What values of x would make the entire denominator be equal to zero??

.........

and hence make the function tend to infinity?
 
i know if i set x equal to 2 that the denominator will equal 0 but then the point is not to have a vertical asymptote so how do i find the value of p?
 
If the numerator is zero at x=2, then you might not have a vertical asymptote.
 
Dick said:
If the numerator is zero at x=2, then you might not have a vertical asymptote.

WHAT?
Look at the denominator. If x=-2, then x^3 + 8 = 0. The denominator makes the function undefined at x=-2, so this is the vertical asymtote.
 
symbolipoint said:
WHAT?
Look at the denominator. If x=-2, then x^3 + 8 = 0. The denominator makes the function undefined at x=-2, so this is the vertical asymtote.

Sure. Sorry. x=-2. I was only looking at the OP's last post.
 
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You still might not have a vertical asymptote at x= -2!

Yes, at x= -2, the denominator goes to 0. As long as the numerator has a non-zero value at x= -2, there is a vertical asymptote there. Now, what value of p will guarantee that x= -2 is NOT a vertical asymptote?
 
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Say you had a number set 1-10. X can equal any of these numbers other than 5, how would you show that?

Hint: <,>
 
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Charlie_russo said:
Say you had a number set 1-10. X can equal any of these numbers other than 5, how would you show that?

Hint: <,>
Since the only possible vertical asymptote would be at x= -2, I have no idea what that has to do with this problem!
 
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teffy3001 said:
its asking me to find the value of p so that the function won't have a vertical asymptote:

g(x) = (3x + p) / (x^3 + 8)

however, I'm not sure how to figure that out...any help?

You want p to have a value? If p were to contain a factor of x^2 or higher power, then g(x) would have a slant asymtote; but that seems not exactly to be what you ask.

HallsofIvy - help us here maybe, since we seem to not be so advanced. What are we missing?
 
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symbolipoint said:
You want p to have a value? If p were to contain a factor of x^2 or higher power, then g(x) would have a slant asymtote; but that seems not exactly to be what you ask.

HallsofIvy - help us here maybe, since we seem to not be so advanced. What are we missing?

p=(-6)?
 
  • #15
Not quite, Dick, you've lost track of sign somewhere.

At x= -2, the denominator, [itex]x^3+ 2[/itex] is equal to 0. Obviously, as I said above, as long as the numerator is not also 0, the value of the function goes to infinity as we approach x= -2: a vertical asymptote. The only way not to have a vertical asymptote is to make sure the numerator also goes to 0 at x= -2: that 3x+ p= 3(-2)+ p= -6+ p= 0 or p= 6. If p= 6, then
[tex]\frac{3x+ 6}{x^3+ 8}= \frac{3(x+ 2)}{(x+ 2)(x^2- 2x+ 4)}= \frac{3}{x^2- 2x+ 4}[/tex]
Rather than a vertical asymptote, we have a curve with a "hole" at (-3, 3/7).
 
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