MHB Find Value of Squareroot of 3: Using the Graph & Quadratic Equation

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The discussion focuses on determining the value of √3 using the quadratic equation x² - 2x - 3 and a straight line, specifically y = -2x. Participants explore the intersection points of the parabola and the line, identifying them at approximately -1.7 and 1.7. The method for finding the line involves ensuring that the coefficients remain integers when substituting √3 into the quadratic equation. Substitution is emphasized as a practical approach to solving the problem, highlighting the importance of experimentation in mathematics. Overall, the conversation underscores the relationship between graphical representation and algebraic solutions in finding the square root of 3.
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There is a graph in the form of $x^2-2x-3$ determine the value of $\sqrt{3}$ to the nearest decimal place by drawing an a suitable straight line

What must be that straight line ? Usually these kind of problems are solved using the quadratic equation

Many thanks :)
 
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y = -2x
 
Here is the desmos graph including both the parabola and the line

[graph]z2xkzb3xja[/graph]

Looking at the line $y=-2x$ I cannot exactly see what has it got to do with determining $\sqrt{3}$ to the nearest whole number

Many Thanks :)
 
Where do the parabola and line intersect?
 
MarkFL said:
Where do the parabola and line intersect?

Wow (Clapping) they intersect at -1.7 and 1.7.

What was the method used to determine the line?

Many Thanks (Smile)
 
I can't speak for greg1313 and MarkFL but what I would do is note that, if we take equation y= ax+ b, that line and the given quadratic will intersect where [math]x^2- 2x- 3= ax+ b[/math] so that [math]x^2- (2+ a)x- (3+ b)= 0[/math]. If \sqrt{3} is a root then, in order that the coefficients be integers, -\sqrt{3} must also be so that we must have (\sqrt{3})^3- (2+ b)\sqrt{3}- (3+ b)= 3- (2+ a)\sqrt{3}- 3- b= -(2+a)\sqrt{3}- b= 0 and (-\sqrt{3})^2- (2+ b)(-\sqrt{3})- 3- b= 3+ (2+ b)\sqrt{3}- 3- b= (2+a)\sqrt{3}- b= 0. Adding those two equations, the "a" terms cancel giving -b= 0 so b= 0. Then we have -(2+ a)\sqrt{3}= 0 so that 2+ a= 0 and a= -2.
 
Mathematics is a science and experimentation is a valuable tool. The first thing I did was to substitute $\sqrt3$ for $x$ in the given quadratic and observe the results. Get your hands dirty!
 
greg1313 said:
Mathematics is a science and experimentation is a valuable tool. The first thing I did was to substitute $\sqrt3$ for $x$ in the given quadratic and observe the results. Get your hands dirty!

Yes agreed :) By substitution I guess what was implied was replacing all x terms by $\sqrt{3}$

$x^2-2x-3$

$\sqrt{3}^2-2\sqrt{3}-3$

$3-2\sqrt{3}-3$

$-2\sqrt{3}=0=y$

And what possibly went wrong?

Many thanks :)
 
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